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 Post subject: Re: Brexit
PostPosted: Wed July 11, 2018 12:07 pm 
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It was definitely an advisory vote, and not strictly binding in and of itself.

However, refusing to implement the result would represent a catastrophic break of trust with the electorate in the circumstances.

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I think if you went and found the latest polling you’ll find trust is all but nonexistent for them now anyways and a huge amount that voted to leave would change their vote if it was held again tomorrow.

Don’t know where I saw these but it was one of the big English papers. Times or guardian

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I think if you went and found the latest polling you’ll find trust is all but nonexistent for them now anyways and a huge amount that voted to leave would change their vote if it was held again tomorrow.

Don’t know where I saw these but it was one of the big English papers. Times or guardian

It remained in favor of leaving until around October of last year, and then slowly shifted. It wasn’t until the last month or so that opposition to Brexit became a consistent, demonstrated majority....and even then, not by a huge margin. More important is the intensity gap, with Brexit supporters mostly tepid and opposers strongly opposed.

The trend hasn’t abated, so we could eventually reach a point where a public referendum that is not supported by the public is being enacted.

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I wouldn’t say tepid at all. Those I know In the uk that voted for leave have been growing angrier over the past year. They feel lied to and mislead and with the constant resignantions of ministers and those that pushed for it its getting louder. They were sold a bunch of bullshit and now they don’t want it. Tough shit In a way but the never ending shit show it’s become will see nobody happy if it ever does come to a conclusion.

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 Post subject: Re: Brexit
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dimejinky99 wrote:
I think if you went and found the latest polling you’ll find trust is all but nonexistent for them now anyways and a huge amount that voted to leave would change their vote if it was held again tomorrow.

Don’t know where I saw these but it was one of the big English papers. Times or guardian

It remained in favor of leaving until around October of last year, and then slowly shifted. It wasn’t until the last month or so that opposition to Brexit became a consistent, demonstrated majority....and even then, not by a huge margin. More important is the intensity gap, with Brexit supporters mostly tepid and opposers strongly opposed.

The trend hasn’t abated, so we could eventually reach a point where a public referendum that is not supported by the public is being enacted.


The EU is now talking about dealing with migrants, so maybe this didn't happen in a vacuum? If member states talked about how to restrict migrants to asylum in the country of entry back when Brexit was voted on, would it have passed?

Schengen open borders was only ever intended for EU citizens, and its a shame it has taken this long for Germany et al to figure that out.


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wow. There’s tone deafness then there’s this. Farrage is a cunt. Glad they did this


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 Post subject: Re: Brexit
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Britain needs to just have Trump negotiate a deal while he’s there. He’s a goddamn deal maker. He’s transformed it into and art form.


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 Post subject: Re: Brexit
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Did you see his completely nonsensical surprise press conference this morning?

He doesn’t know what brexit is. He thinks it’s somethibg to do with the electoral college. And he has beautiful properties in Scotland and Ireland. Which isn’t the uk.

The man is either truly an idiot or playing an Oscar worthy role as one

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You didn’t interpret a deep tissue understanding of the entire topic from his brilliant yet concise explanation “Brexit is Brexit?”

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You didn’t interpret a deep tissue understanding of the entire topic from his brilliant yet concise explanation “Brexit is Brexit?”



No. I’m pretty sure he’s heartbroken about it. As he said.

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Actually there’s a telling moment I cannot that monlogue.
Where he says I guess the people voted for it so it should happen / but I guess it’s going to go another way

Pp but I thought that told it’s own tale.


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dimejinky99 wrote:
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You didn’t interpret a deep tissue understanding of the entire topic from his brilliant yet concise explanation “Brexit is Brexit?”



No. I’m pretty sure he’s heartbroken about it. As he said.

“Brexit is tough. In fact I understand John Kelly was disappointed by Brexit at the NATO. So sad. So sad. Not enough scones.”

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