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Post subject: Re: The War on Terror /Central Asia/Mid East/Africa thread
Posted: Sun August 22, 2021 4:00 am
Misplaced My Sponge
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Currently conflicted as to which regional struggle to focus on, the establishment of Khalistan, the insurgency in Balochistan, or the plight of the Anglophone Cameroonians.
I'm pretty sure the only compromise is to bring them all in to establish the state of Jefferson, and they'll get along fine and effectively resist any incursions from the despised Newsonites and their equivalent Oregon kin.
Post subject: Re: The War on Terror /Central Asia/Mid East/Africa thread
Posted: Sun August 22, 2021 12:36 pm
Looks Like a Cat
Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm Posts: 14224
dimejinky99 wrote:
How so? Obviously can’t airlift the entire population out. But those at the airport are wasting their time while far far many more others have started the long walk to Europe. The airport is getting all the coverage though obviously.
Because the war was already lost:
So what is airlifting a couple hundred Afghan civilians (aside from SIVs) gonna do besides drive more desperate people towards the airport?
_________________ "The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don't have a f**king clue about how to build anything."
Post subject: Re: The War on Terror /Central Asia/Mid East/Africa thread
Posted: Sun August 22, 2021 6:09 pm
what on earth am I talking about
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elliseamos wrote:
What are the numbers for the taliban side?
Look at all those lives saved by Joey B.!
They’ve not only left billions of dollars in cash. They’ve left hundreds of billions in military hardware. Tanks choppers missile systems weaponry All of it.
Post subject: Re: The War on Terror /Central Asia/Mid East/Africa thread
Posted: Sun August 22, 2021 11:21 pm
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dimejinky99 wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
What are the numbers for the taliban side?
Look at all those lives saved by Joey B.!
They’ve not only left billions of dollars in cash. They’ve left hundreds of billions in military hardware. Tanks choppers missile systems weaponry All of it.
What could possibly go wrong?
September 11 is gonna be interesting
Can Joe claim it as a loss and recoup some tax deduction?
Post subject: Re: The War on Terror /Central Asia/Mid East/Africa thread
Posted: Mon August 23, 2021 12:51 pm
Looks Like a Cat
Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm Posts: 14224
elliseamos wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
What are the numbers for the taliban side?
Look at all those lives saved by Joey B.!
They’ve not only left billions of dollars in cash. They’ve left hundreds of billions in military hardware. Tanks choppers missile systems weaponry All of it.
What could possibly go wrong?
September 11 is gonna be interesting
Can Joe claim it as a loss and recoup some tax deduction?
Take that, Debt-heads!
What was his alternative? Leaving the small pockets of the Afghan army willing to fight with nothing but sticks and rocks?
Agree they should have burned the cash though.
_________________ "The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don't have a f**king clue about how to build anything."
Post subject: Re: The War on Terror /Central Asia/Mid East/Africa thread
Posted: Tue August 24, 2021 3:59 am
Misplaced My Sponge
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 3:41 am Posts: 5585
Bi_3 wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
What are the numbers for the taliban side?
Look at all those lives saved by Joey B.!
They’ve not only left billions of dollars in cash. They’ve left hundreds of billions in military hardware. Tanks choppers missile systems weaponry All of it.
What could possibly go wrong?
September 11 is gonna be interesting
Can Joe claim it as a loss and recoup some tax deduction?
Take that, Debt-heads!
What was his alternative? Leaving the small pockets of the Afghan army willing to fight with nothing but sticks and rocks?
Agree they should have burned the cash though.
Are you pushing the narrative we see in replies to this?
Post subject: Re: The War on Terror /Central Asia/Mid East/Africa thread
Posted: Tue August 24, 2021 11:24 am
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Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm Posts: 14224
simple schoolboy wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
What are the numbers for the taliban side?
Look at all those lives saved by Joey B.!
They’ve not only left billions of dollars in cash. They’ve left hundreds of billions in military hardware. Tanks choppers missile systems weaponry All of it.
What could possibly go wrong?
September 11 is gonna be interesting
Can Joe claim it as a loss and recoup some tax deduction?
Take that, Debt-heads!
What was his alternative? Leaving the small pockets of the Afghan army willing to fight with nothing but sticks and rocks?
Agree they should have burned the cash though.
Are you pushing the narrative we see in replies to this?
NOVA is all in on cope, it would seem.
Not pushing a narrative, but the more I consider it, the more I don't see any win here for 'Murca only mitigating losses. That doesn't excuse the fact they we failed to evacuate by the negotiated time (going months past) and look like fucking clowns doing it, hurting ourselves and our allies in the process. It's that at some point we need to acknowledge the sunk cost and get out.
_________________ "The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don't have a f**king clue about how to build anything."
Post subject: Re: The War on Terror /Central Asia/Mid East/Africa thread
Posted: Wed August 25, 2021 3:46 am
Misplaced My Sponge
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 3:41 am Posts: 5585
Bi_3 wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
What are the numbers for the taliban side?
Look at all those lives saved by Joey B.!
They’ve not only left billions of dollars in cash. They’ve left hundreds of billions in military hardware. Tanks choppers missile systems weaponry All of it.
What could possibly go wrong?
September 11 is gonna be interesting
Can Joe claim it as a loss and recoup some tax deduction?
Take that, Debt-heads!
What was his alternative? Leaving the small pockets of the Afghan army willing to fight with nothing but sticks and rocks?
Agree they should have burned the cash though.
Are you pushing the narrative we see in replies to this?
NOVA is all in on cope, it would seem.
Not pushing a narrative, but the more I consider it, the more I don't see any win here for 'Murca only mitigating losses. That doesn't excuse the fact they we failed to evacuate by the negotiated time (going months past) and look like fucking clowns doing it, hurting ourselves and our allies in the process. It's that at some point we need to acknowledge the sunk cost and get out.
I've seen more than a few, "its going better than could be expected" takes, which are bizarre.
Glad to hear you have a more reality based assessment.
On the topic of bizarre takes: claiming the Taliban captured stocks of MANPADS. We only funded their military to do COIN stuff. If Tajikstan chose to invade Afghanistan, we may very well have supported it, and certainly would not have armed the Afghans to in any way resist air power. Seems unlikely the Afghan defense ministry would send out RFQs for weapons systems they would have to pay for themselves.
The only thing that makes any sense was an old article talking about a C-RAM system in Kabul being described as an Afghan air defense system. Which it is, kinda. They blew up the one by the embassy when they decamped to the airport.
Post subject: Re: The War on Terror /Central Asia/Mid East/Africa thread
Posted: Wed August 25, 2021 10:23 am
Looks Like a Cat
Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm Posts: 14224
simple schoolboy wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
What are the numbers for the taliban side?
Look at all those lives saved by Joey B.!
They’ve not only left billions of dollars in cash. They’ve left hundreds of billions in military hardware. Tanks choppers missile systems weaponry All of it.
What could possibly go wrong?
September 11 is gonna be interesting
Can Joe claim it as a loss and recoup some tax deduction?
Take that, Debt-heads!
What was his alternative? Leaving the small pockets of the Afghan army willing to fight with nothing but sticks and rocks?
Agree they should have burned the cash though.
Are you pushing the narrative we see in replies to this?
NOVA is all in on cope, it would seem.
Not pushing a narrative, but the more I consider it, the more I don't see any win here for 'Murca only mitigating losses. That doesn't excuse the fact they we failed to evacuate by the negotiated time (going months past) and look like fucking clowns doing it, hurting ourselves and our allies in the process. It's that at some point we need to acknowledge the sunk cost and get out.
I've seen more than a few, "its going better than could be expected" takes, which are bizarre.
Glad to hear you have a more reality based assessment.
On the topic of bizarre takes: claiming the Taliban captured stocks of MANPADS. We only funded their military to do COIN stuff. If Tajikstan chose to invade Afghanistan, we may very well have supported it, and certainly would not have armed the Afghans to in any way resist air power. Seems unlikely the Afghan defense ministry would send out RFQs for weapons systems they would have to pay for themselves.
The only thing that makes any sense was an old article talking about a C-RAM system in Kabul being described as an Afghan air defense system. Which it is, kinda. They blew up the one by the embassy when they decamped to the airport.
If this is true, then people all the way up the chain should end up in jail. Soldiers should die before surrendering those.
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