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verb_to_trust · **Posted:** Sat January 09, 2016 5:10 pm

The county only has like 7k residents and we are entering the tough months of winter. The refuge basically sits dormant during that time I'm willing to bet. Let them sit there.

Do they really expect Obama is going to roll up in a motorcade and say here have the property rights? Im fascinated by how simple minded some of these guys must be to think they have any leg to stand on here.

E.H. Ruddock · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 2:48 pm **Posts:** 47319

Are there measures in place to prevent people from bringing them food and supplies?

E.H. Ruddock · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 2:48 pm **Posts:** 47319

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

I don't really understand the "just ignore them" point. Why? Why should armed people who are taking over a place that doesn't belong to them be ignored? How is that not an obvious time for police intervention?

Contrary to what they are declaring, they want some kind of confrontation or conflict out of this to further prove their point. If we all go away, and force them to leave because they are out of supplies, it would be pretty lame and embarrassing for them.

stip · **Joined:** Thu December 13, 2012 6:31 pm **Posts:** 39815

Green Habit wrote:

stip wrote:

B wrote:

Why are the feds still supplying them with water, heat, and electricity?

good question

Seems to me that the last thing officials want is for these guys to become martyrs by going out in a blaze of glory. I don't see much particular harm in waiting them out, and plan for what would likely be the most humiliating outcome for this movement: to willingly surrender peacefully.

I know there were delightful stories of the idiots who went out to the bundy ranch coming home to discover wives/girlfriends left them, jobs were lost, etc.

stip · **Joined:** Thu December 13, 2012 6:31 pm **Posts:** 39815

Green Habit wrote:

stip wrote:

B wrote:

Why are the feds still supplying them with water, heat, and electricity?

good question

Seems to me that the last thing officials want is for these guys to become martyrs by going out in a blaze of glory. I don't see much particular harm in waiting them out, and plan for what would likely be the most humiliating outcome for this movement: to willingly surrender peacefully.

fair point.

McParadigm · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 1:56 am **Posts:** 21834

verb_to_trust wrote:

Do they really expect Obama is going to roll up in a motorcade and say here have the property rights? Im fascinated by how simple minded some of these guys must be to think they have any leg to stand on here.

Of course they don't. This is about entitlement, the rush of bully power, and a world view that has been fed only what it wants to hear for a very long time.

When your politicians and news sources all pander to your every fantasy, eventually anyone who disagrees must just be maliciously ignoring you.

stip · **Joined:** Thu December 13, 2012 6:31 pm **Posts:** 39815

I do think some of these idiots think this will inspire others to act.

Remember a few years ago when thousands of truckers were going to show up and circle the belt in their big rigs blocking all the exists. All the tea party sites and media plugged the event. Like 3 trucks showed up.

Good times.

BurtReynolds · **Posted:** Sat January 09, 2016 7:50 pm

verb_to_trust · **Posted:** Sat January 09, 2016 8:24 pm

Im so pissed I didnt come up with #yallqaeda or #vanillaisis

swan · **Posted:** Sat January 09, 2016 8:28 pm

I'm so proud to be an Oregonian

swan · **Posted:** Sat January 09, 2016 8:30 pm

It's nice to know that the Lefties AND the Righties in this state are equally self-entitled & detached from reality

LoathedVermin72 · **Posted:** Sat January 09, 2016 8:45 pm

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

I don't really understand the "just ignore them" point. Why? Why should armed people who are taking over a place that doesn't belong to them be ignored? How is that not an obvious time for police intervention?

Contrary to what they are declaring, they want some kind of confrontation or conflict out of this to further prove their point. If we all go away, and force them to leave because they are out of supplies, it would be pretty lame and embarrassing for them.

Yeah, but like Burt said about ISIS, who cares what they want? That doesn't seem relevant.

E.H. Ruddock · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 2:48 pm **Posts:** 47319

Fair point. Noted.

BurtReynolds · **Posted:** Sat January 09, 2016 8:49 pm

E.H. Ruddock · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 2:48 pm **Posts:** 47319

I just hate media so much more now that apparently tweets and posts are acceptable forms of sources.

BurtReynolds · **Posted:** Sat January 09, 2016 9:03 pm

Strat · **Posted:** Sun January 10, 2016 3:59 am

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

No, they are dumbass rednecks who want attention. The sooner i get into a cabin in the mountains and away from society, the better. God I can't wait.

Wanna build a place with me?

E.H. Ruddock · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 2:48 pm **Posts:** 47319

Strat wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

No, they are dumbass rednecks who want attention. The sooner i get into a cabin in the mountains and away from society, the better. God I can't wait.

Wanna build a place with me?

Yeah

Strat · **Posted:** Sun January 10, 2016 4:04 am

Cool. Burt can't come though.

E.H. Ruddock · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 2:48 pm **Posts:** 47319

Strat wrote:

Cool. Burt can't come though.

You gotta bring a hot girl though. My wife can't be the only female

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