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 Post subject: Re: Transgender Rights
PostPosted: Fri March 31, 2017 1:22 pm 
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This HB 2 Repeal Is Bullshit and Roy Cooper Is Selling Us Out

http://www.indyweek.com/news/archives/2 ... ing-us-out



Ok, so they repeal it but they refuse to let cities enact their own laws?

Whatever happened to local control of government principles?


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 Post subject: Re: Transgender Rights
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Electromatic wrote:
B wrote:
This HB 2 Repeal Is Bullshit and Roy Cooper Is Selling Us Out

http://www.indyweek.com/news/archives/2 ... ing-us-out



Ok, so they repeal it but they refuse to let cities enact their own laws?

Whatever happened to local control of government principles?


States' rights, baby. North Carolina has the right to fuck with it's cities and counties.

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 Post subject: Re: Transgender Rights
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NCAA threatened to pull everything until 2020 unless they repealed the law. Notice when all this stupid shit ends in the law.

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 Post subject: Re: Transgender Rights
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 Post subject: Re: Transgender Rights
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/03/31/radio-station-got-majorly-trolled-during-interview-about-anti-trans-free-speech-bus/


Once again proving my favorite theory:

Nobody can be a racist, homophobe or nazi pig ever again because we have FREE SPEECH now!

Yay!


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 Post subject: Re: Transgender Rights
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B wrote:
Electromatic wrote:
B wrote:
This HB 2 Repeal Is Bullshit and Roy Cooper Is Selling Us Out

http://www.indyweek.com/news/archives/2 ... ing-us-out
Ok, so they repeal it but they refuse to let cities enact their own laws?

Whatever happened to local control of government principles?
States' rights, baby. North Carolina has the right to fuck with it's cities and counties.
Bet there's a lot of NC pols that would be pissed off if the feds were telling them what to do... :shake:


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 Post subject: Re: Transgender Rights
PostPosted: Sat April 01, 2017 8:18 am 
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Green Habit wrote:
B wrote:
Electromatic wrote:
B wrote:
This HB 2 Repeal Is Bullshit and Roy Cooper Is Selling Us Out

http://www.indyweek.com/news/archives/2 ... ing-us-out
Ok, so they repeal it but they refuse to let cities enact their own laws?

Whatever happened to local control of government principles?
States' rights, baby. North Carolina has the right to fuck with it's cities and counties.
Bet there's a lot of NC pols that would be pissed off if the feds were telling them what to do... :shake:


There's a state corollary to the 10th amendment. There are many things that no level of government should do.


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 Post subject: Re: Transgender Rights
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Green Habit wrote:
B wrote:
Electromatic wrote:
B wrote:
This HB 2 Repeal Is Bullshit and Roy Cooper Is Selling Us Out

http://www.indyweek.com/news/archives/2 ... ing-us-out
Ok, so they repeal it but they refuse to let cities enact their own laws?

Whatever happened to local control of government principles?
States' rights, baby. North Carolina has the right to fuck with it's cities and counties.
Bet there's a lot of NC pols that would be pissed off if the feds were telling them what to do... :shake:


I'm pretty sure we joined the anti-Obamacare lawsuit on Medicaid expansion.

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 Post subject: Re: Transgender Rights
PostPosted: Tue April 04, 2017 11:23 pm 
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I have to say - I pretty much agree with those complaining about the advantage

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 Post subject: Re: Transgender Rights
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Yeah, sports is gonna be tough to figure out.

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 Post subject: Re: Transgender Rights
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Yeah, sports is gonna be tough to figure out.

If only there were some simple way to decide who competes with who...

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 Post subject: Re: Transgender Rights
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 Post subject: Re: Transgender Rights
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 Post subject: Re: Transgender Rights
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The somewhat controversial "C-16" passed in Canada recently. Any Canadian RMers have an opinion on this law?

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 Post subject: Re: Transgender Rights
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Bi_3 wrote:
The somewhat controversial "C-16" passed in Canada recently. Any Canadian RMers have an opinion on this law?
What is C-16 and why is it somewhat controversial?


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 Post subject: Re: Transgender Rights
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Green Habit wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
The somewhat controversial "C-16" passed in Canada recently. Any Canadian RMers have an opinion on this law?
What is C-16 and why is it somewhat controversial?


My limited understanding is that it adds transgendered people as a protected class, which is a good thing, but it is vague enough to where certain language use (intentionally not saying zir for example) could open a person to legal consequences as incitement of hate in front of one of Canada's "rights tribunals".

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 Post subject: Re: Transgender Rights
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Green Habit wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
The somewhat controversial "C-16" passed in Canada recently. Any Canadian RMers have an opinion on this law?
What is C-16 and why is it somewhat controversial?


I assume it's this, which makes gender identity a protected class: https://openparliament.ca/bills/42-1/C-16/

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 Post subject: Re: Transgender Rights
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Bi_3 wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
The somewhat controversial "C-16" passed in Canada recently. Any Canadian RMers have an opinion on this law?
What is C-16 and why is it somewhat controversial?


My limited understanding is that it adds transgendered people as a protected class, which is a good thing, but it is vague enough to where certain language use (intentionally not saying zir for example) could open a person to legal consequences as incitement of hate in front of one of Canada's "rights tribunals".
The bill is good except for leaving it open to being a human rights infraction for not using ze or zir or other "reasonable" pronouns was a horrible mistake. Governments should not be forcing speech on anyone. Our human rights tribunals are already a farce, this just makes it worse. I am good with them dictating that something can't be said but not that something must be said.

Our human rights tribunals provide unlimited resources to the complainant and zero resources to the defendant. They work outside our justice system, do not have the checks and balances that justice system have, and are just horrible government over reach.


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 Post subject: Re: Transgender Rights
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That criticism is fair, but that seems like a problem with the tribunal itself and not with the specific application to the trans community.


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 Post subject: Re: Transgender Rights
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Green Habit wrote:
That criticism is fair, but that seems like a problem with the tribunal itself and not with the specific application to the trans community.
Bill C-16 is open to someone being able to make a human rights complaint because you did not use their preferred pronoun. It is government compelling speech. Any issue I have is not with the Trans community but with government compelled speech.


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