Wed October 25, 2017 4:25 pm
4/5 wrote:In the United States the following statements are true about people labeled as living in poverty:
96% say that their children were never hungry in the last year because they couldn't afford food.
Fri October 27, 2017 10:25 am
Tue October 31, 2017 3:05 pm
Bi_3 wrote:I would add that the things you mentioned are "things". Things break down. They rot. They become obsolete. Without wealth, all you are doing is replacing and maintaining things.
Wed November 01, 2017 5:51 pm
Wed November 01, 2017 6:21 pm
Wed November 01, 2017 6:27 pm
BurtReynolds wrote:Neither of those posts seem like ringing endorsements of globalization. In fact, the opposite.
Wed November 01, 2017 6:28 pm
Wed November 01, 2017 6:29 pm
Wed November 01, 2017 6:33 pm
tragabigzanda wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:Neither of those posts seem like ringing endorsements of globalization. In fact, the opposite.
I'm not endorsing it, just accepting it's the reality. What would Bannon have us do? Stop trading with other countries and making all of our widgets domestically? Or continue global trade, but push deals that create ever more deplorable working and environmental conditions wherever our widgets are made?
Wed November 01, 2017 6:34 pm
Wed November 01, 2017 6:35 pm
Wed November 01, 2017 6:35 pm
BurtReynolds wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:Neither of those posts seem like ringing endorsements of globalization. In fact, the opposite.
I'm not endorsing it, just accepting it's the reality. What would Bannon have us do? Stop trading with other countries and making all of our widgets domestically? Or continue global trade, but push deals that create ever more deplorable working and environmental conditions wherever our widgets are made?
Given those two choices: the first one.
Wed November 01, 2017 6:38 pm
tragabigzanda wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:Neither of those posts seem like ringing endorsements of globalization. In fact, the opposite.
I'm not endorsing it, just accepting it's the reality. What would Bannon have us do? Stop trading with other countries and making all of our widgets domestically? Or continue global trade, but push deals that create ever more deplorable working and environmental conditions wherever our widgets are made?
Wed November 01, 2017 6:41 pm
4/5 wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:Neither of those posts seem like ringing endorsements of globalization. In fact, the opposite.
I'm not endorsing it, just accepting it's the reality. What would Bannon have us do? Stop trading with other countries and making all of our widgets domestically? Or continue global trade, but push deals that create ever more deplorable working and environmental conditions wherever our widgets are made?
Before I respond I want to make sure I understand what you're saying. Are you arguing that global trade creates ever more deplorable working and environmental conditions?
Wed November 01, 2017 6:43 pm
tragabigzanda wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:Neither of those posts seem like ringing endorsements of globalization. In fact, the opposite.
I'm not endorsing it, just accepting it's the reality. What would Bannon have us do? Stop trading with other countries and making all of our widgets domestically? Or continue global trade, but push deals that create ever more deplorable working and environmental conditions wherever our widgets are made?
Given those two choices: the first one.
Oh, it'd be great if we could make it happen. But even if we could execute some modern New Deal situation that put every American to work in the manufacturing sector, how long would it take to implement? 20 years?
Wed November 01, 2017 6:45 pm
Wed November 01, 2017 6:56 pm
4/5 wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:Neither of those posts seem like ringing endorsements of globalization. In fact, the opposite.
I'm not endorsing it, just accepting it's the reality. What would Bannon have us do? Stop trading with other countries and making all of our widgets domestically? Or continue global trade, but push deals that create ever more deplorable working and environmental conditions wherever our widgets are made?
Given those two choices: the first one.
Oh, it'd be great if we could make it happen. But even if we could execute some modern New Deal situation that put every American to work in the manufacturing sector, how long would it take to implement? 20 years?
Why on earth would it be great to bring back manufacturing jobs to the U.S.? The fact that those jobs are gone is a sign of progress. As a nation we are too skilled and too productive for those jobs at this point and that's a really good thing.
Wed November 01, 2017 6:59 pm
4/5 wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:Neither of those posts seem like ringing endorsements of globalization. In fact, the opposite.
I'm not endorsing it, just accepting it's the reality. What would Bannon have us do? Stop trading with other countries and making all of our widgets domestically? Or continue global trade, but push deals that create ever more deplorable working and environmental conditions wherever our widgets are made?
Given those two choices: the first one.
Oh, it'd be great if we could make it happen. But even if we could execute some modern New Deal situation that put every American to work in the manufacturing sector, how long would it take to implement? 20 years?
Why on earth would it be great to bring back manufacturing jobs to the U.S.? The fact that those jobs are gone is a sign of progress. As a nation we are too skilled and too productive for those jobs at this point and that's a really good thing.
Wed November 01, 2017 7:13 pm
tragabigzanda wrote:4/5 wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:Neither of those posts seem like ringing endorsements of globalization. In fact, the opposite.
I'm not endorsing it, just accepting it's the reality. What would Bannon have us do? Stop trading with other countries and making all of our widgets domestically? Or continue global trade, but push deals that create ever more deplorable working and environmental conditions wherever our widgets are made?
Given those two choices: the first one.
Oh, it'd be great if we could make it happen. But even if we could execute some modern New Deal situation that put every American to work in the manufacturing sector, how long would it take to implement? 20 years?
Why on earth would it be great to bring back manufacturing jobs to the U.S.? The fact that those jobs are gone is a sign of progress. As a nation we are too skilled and too productive for those jobs at this point and that's a really good thing.
As a small business owner pursuing all manner of funding for development of a light manufacturing line in a rural area, I wholeheartedly disagree. There are people less than a hundred feet from where I'm sitting right now who would love a manufacturing job.
Wed November 01, 2017 7:22 pm
tragabigzanda wrote:4/5 wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:Neither of those posts seem like ringing endorsements of globalization. In fact, the opposite.
I'm not endorsing it, just accepting it's the reality. What would Bannon have us do? Stop trading with other countries and making all of our widgets domestically? Or continue global trade, but push deals that create ever more deplorable working and environmental conditions wherever our widgets are made?
Given those two choices: the first one.
Oh, it'd be great if we could make it happen. But even if we could execute some modern New Deal situation that put every American to work in the manufacturing sector, how long would it take to implement? 20 years?
Why on earth would it be great to bring back manufacturing jobs to the U.S.? The fact that those jobs are gone is a sign of progress. As a nation we are too skilled and too productive for those jobs at this point and that's a really good thing.
As a small business owner pursuing all manner of funding for development of a light manufacturing line in a rural area, I wholeheartedly disagree. There are people less than a hundred feet from where I'm sitting right now who would love a manufacturing job.