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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone care about the economy?
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 2:02 pm 
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I guess I'm well below middle class, but the childcare expenses are the same.


What the hell are they eating that three people spend $2100 a month on food?


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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone care about the economy?
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$250 a week for groceries, $12 a day for lunch at work, date night at $150?

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That chart is hilarious.


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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone care about the economy?
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Bi_3 wrote:
$250 a week for groceries, $12 a day for lunch at work, date night at $150?


I interpreted it as if it was intended to be a "$300,000 really isn't that much" chart, but looking at most of those numbers it's more accurate for it to be a "$300,000 really isn't that much if you continuously make terrible decisions with your money" chart.

Maybe it wasn't intended to be either, but it's pretty awful regardless.


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$250 a week for groceries, $12 a day for lunch at work, date night at $150?


I interpreted it as if it was intended to be a "$300,000 really isn't that much" chart, but looking at most of those numbers it's more accurate for it to be a "$300,000 really isn't that much if you continuously make terrible decisions with your money" chart.

Maybe it wasn't intended to be either, but it's pretty awful regardless.


Yeah, but this person is stimulating the economy...


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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone care about the economy?
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philpritchard wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
$250 a week for groceries, $12 a day for lunch at work, date night at $150?


I interpreted it as if it was intended to be a "$300,000 really isn't that much" chart, but looking at most of those numbers it's more accurate for it to be a "$300,000 really isn't that much if you continuously make terrible decisions with your money" chart.

Maybe it wasn't intended to be either, but it's pretty awful regardless.


I think it's suppose to be "what does middle class behavior cost in the more expensive cities in North America", hence the scaled up cots of everything. There is certainly some overestimation there.

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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone care about the economy?
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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone care about the economy?
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$300,000 a year is not even close to the "middle class".


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I'd say it depends on where you live, but I think in most places, including cities, $300k would be plenty.

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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone care about the economy?
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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone care about the economy?
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The middle class as defined by Pew Research is $42k-$125k.


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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone care about the economy?
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BurtReynolds wrote:
I'd say it depends on where you live, but I think in most places, including cities, $300k would be plenty.


Of course, but there's probably only about 3-4 metro areas where $300k a year would even he close to middle class.


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California is now the 5th largest economy in the world, but the 17th most unequal in the world (below Mexico), and 2nd in the US behind New York. This won't end well.

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I'm surprised you think inequality is a bad thing, burt.


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A mix of ‘docks and Alex accounts would be RMs end game

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I'm surprised you think inequality is a bad thing, burt.


Its not the winners at the top I'm most worried about. It's the losers that conclude they lost because they were cheated and decide to burn down the system that brings so much prosperity, despite most living better than anyone else in history, because they were jealous.

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BurtReynolds wrote:
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I'm surprised you think inequality is a bad thing, burt.


Its not the winners at the top I'm most worried about. It's the losers that conclude they lost because they were cheated and decide to burn down the system that brings so much prosperity, despite most living better than anyone else in history, because they were jealous.

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I'm not worried about either of those groups. It's the people who were comfortably in the middle and then, sometimes suddenly, are excluded (i.e. Trump voters) that scare me.

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BurtReynolds wrote:
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I'm surprised you think inequality is a bad thing, burt.


Its not the winners at the top I'm most worried about. It's the losers that conclude they lost because they were cheated and decide to burn down the system that brings so much prosperity, despite most living better than anyone else in history, because they were jealous.

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I would just point out that these people aren't actually losers, but rather perceive themselves as losers because others are doing better. And yeah, these are the people that worry me tremendously.

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The West is the best. Montana needs to get with the program, though.

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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone care about the economy?
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how much money do you need?


to give yourselves a sense of security?



Not everyone gauges success on how much money they make.



So lets tax the fucking stock market....a 1% tax on trading covers health care...among a thousand other things...

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