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Anders wrote:I'll agree that it's a dangerous path to walk down, when someone can say something about what happened one year, and then change it later. But if Robson is telling the truth, it also makes sense. If a child is molested in the manner described, it will not be easy to talk about it. I'm also fairly certain that he felt a lot of love for Michael. Which also makes it more difficult.
Thu March 07, 2019 2:00 pm
meatwad wrote:I went back and forth as I watched between believing them and having more of dime’s point of view. The fact is nobody really knows what happened, but you can’t walk away from this hearing all the strange behavior of MJ, sharing his bed with young boys, etc, and not think there’s at least some fire to go along with all this smoke.
MJ could have very easily still helped children, spend time with children, mentor children, etc but kept very strict boundaries in order to avoid everything he was accused of. He could have had a policy where he was never alone with children without another adult present, had an open door policy at the ranch, etc. He didn’t, and in fact took pains to create secretive areas behind locked doors.
I don’t believe every word these guys claim but I don’t disbelieve them either. It’s easy to see that anyone who came into close proximity of MJ was enraptured by him, and that clearly made people not think clearly (especially the parents). He was emotionally manipulative for sure to get people to serve his ends. And his ends seemed to be having unfettered and private access to young boys.
Thu March 07, 2019 2:55 pm
Thu March 07, 2019 3:36 pm
VinylGuy wrote:meatwad wrote:I went back and forth as I watched between believing them and having more of dime’s point of view. The fact is nobody really knows what happened, but you can’t walk away from this hearing all the strange behavior of MJ, sharing his bed with young boys, etc, and not think there’s at least some fire to go along with all this smoke.
MJ could have very easily still helped children, spend time with children, mentor children, etc but kept very strict boundaries in order to avoid everything he was accused of. He could have had a policy where he was never alone with children without another adult present, had an open door policy at the ranch, etc. He didn’t, and in fact took pains to create secretive areas behind locked doors.
I don’t believe every word these guys claim but I don’t disbelieve them either. It’s easy to see that anyone who came into close proximity of MJ was enraptured by him, and that clearly made people not think clearly (especially the parents). He was emotionally manipulative for sure to get people to serve his ends. And his ends seemed to be having unfettered and private access to young boys.
yes, thats what i have been saying. The sex part..if its true is another horrible thing he did...But his ways were already horrible. He was an abuser for sure and an awful human being.
Thu March 07, 2019 3:46 pm
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B wrote:Holy shit, that R. Kelly interview!
Thu March 07, 2019 5:02 pm
E.H. Ruddock wrote:B wrote:Holy shit, that R. Kelly interview!
And he acted like that around a confident, powerful, woman that wasn't going to give in to his bullshit. Imagine how the women who were helpless and basically kidnapped by him felt...
That guy can rot in hell.
Thu March 07, 2019 5:08 pm
LetMeSleep wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:B wrote:Holy shit, that R. Kelly interview!
And he acted like that around a confident, powerful, woman that wasn't going to give in to his bullshit. Imagine how the women who were helpless and basically kidnapped by him felt...
That guy can rot in hell.
Thu March 07, 2019 5:11 pm
Strat wrote:LetMeSleep wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:B wrote:Holy shit, that R. Kelly interview!
And he acted like that around a confident, powerful, woman that wasn't going to give in to his bullshit. Imagine how the women who were helpless and basically kidnapped by him felt...
That guy can rot in hell.
I haven't watched it yet (ill get on that) but i gotta assume if i was ever accused of a crime I didnt commit i'd probably be losing my shit.