Wed March 06, 2019 6:30 pm
dimejinky99 wrote:VinylGuy wrote:There is a difference between Liz Taylor and seven year old kids Dime. Specially if they are your fans.
Its abusive behavior.
You and I can make that distinction for sure. It’s obvious. I’m not sure he was able to.
*especially given his messiah / victim complex he seemed to have. Something I never understood about him either. How those two things could be in the same personality
Wed March 06, 2019 6:49 pm
VinylGuy wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:VinylGuy wrote:There is a difference between Liz Taylor and seven year old kids Dime. Specially if they are your fans.
Its abusive behavior.
You and I can make that distinction for sure. It’s obvious. I’m not sure he was able to.
*especially given his messiah / victim complex he seemed to have. Something I never understood about him either. How those two things could be in the same personality
I think he was able to yeah. He really went for it and in some cases he knew when not to push around...but sure, the industry, the fans...they all enabled him to do it. Sure.
Thats what i got from part 1 of this doc...and i remembered him saying he didnt had any surgery in his face, denying whats so obvious. And it got me, the sexual stuff...not sure if it happened...but overall the guy is an abuser.
Wed March 06, 2019 6:56 pm
Wed March 06, 2019 6:59 pm
Wed March 06, 2019 7:10 pm
VinylGuy wrote:Like i said i dont think the doc is going to change your mind. You seem to be very upset about the supposed sex abuse.
Wed March 06, 2019 7:21 pm
dimejinky99 wrote:VinylGuy wrote:Like i said i dont think the doc is going to change your mind. You seem to be very upset about the supposed sex abuse.
So far the mothers both are far more disturbing than anything.
Wed March 06, 2019 7:25 pm
VinylGuy wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:VinylGuy wrote:Like i said i dont think the doc is going to change your mind. You seem to be very upset about the supposed sex abuse.
So far the mothers both are far more disturbing than anything.
The mothers are so weird. Not only in that moment, but in the doc too. Its like they are telling a happy story. They seem so happy to be there.
Wed March 06, 2019 7:34 pm
Wed March 06, 2019 7:43 pm
Wed March 06, 2019 7:48 pm
VinylGuy wrote:They are both really star struck and just in awe of Michael being their so called friend.
Wed March 06, 2019 8:46 pm
Wed March 06, 2019 8:47 pm
Green Habit wrote:I think I've effectively reached a "don't care" moment with this.
Michael Jackson is dead. He will either never be brought fully to justice for whatever he did, or he will never feel defamed for whatever he didn't do. People should be free to speak of his legacy however they wish, good or bad. I will continue to separate the art from the artist and appreciate his good music. If that benefits his estate, I don't care, because his estate didn't do whatever Jackson himself did. (Ideally, his estate shouldn't be allowed to rent seek from his work, but that's a topic for a different day.)
Wed March 06, 2019 9:01 pm
Wed March 06, 2019 9:18 pm
dimejinky99 wrote:Just read all those notes/faxes VG.
There’s nothing untoward in any of them in my opinion. What there definitely is is a desperatly lonely guy. And half these faxes are to the mom it seems. Not the son.
Wed March 06, 2019 9:37 pm
Wed March 06, 2019 10:10 pm
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Anyone see the most recent R. Kelly interview? He didn't do himself any favors there, jeesh.
Wed March 06, 2019 10:17 pm
Wed March 06, 2019 10:20 pm
bune wrote:Thing about Arsenal is, they always try and walk it in.
Wed March 06, 2019 10:33 pm
dimejinky99 wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:Anyone see the most recent R. Kelly interview? He didn't do himself any favors there, jeesh.
What was he thinking??
Wed March 06, 2019 11:34 pm