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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
PostPosted: Mon July 06, 2020 5:08 pm 
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Guys, guys Ryan Adams is sorry and this time is for real. And he has a lot of new music too.

He's one I'm really mad about personally (all of the creeps in this thread make me mad in general). I liked Ryan's music so much, but can't listen to him now.


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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
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elliseamos wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
Guys, guys Ryan Adams is sorry and this time is for real. And he has a lot of new music too.

He's one I'm really mad about personally (all of the creeps in this thread make me mad in general). I liked Ryan's music so much, but can't listen to him now.

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
PostPosted: Mon July 06, 2020 5:51 pm 
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Ryan should be able to release music without the mobs permission. You guys don't have to listen.


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But he is! He is able to!

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
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RM cancel culture has already chimed in though


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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
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And as we all know, if anything's going to stop Ryan Adams from releasing music it's a few dozen people arguing about politics on a Pearl Jam message board.


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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
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Oh and of course Epstein was a spy:

https://medium.com/@dylanhoward/ghislai ... 8fc87089da

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
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Ryan Adams does seem to be a massive tool.


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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
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I just find it exhausting that a guy can basically go into hiding for a year and a half, release a possibly heartfelt apology in hopes of being allowed to continue his life and mere hours after releasing said statement the press has already collected all the quotes from the women he has harmed outlining their grievances about not being personally contacted or whatever, as if the dork from Dawes wouldn't be pissed if Ryan tried to call Mandy Moore up and say my bad.


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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
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My expectations must've been pretty low for Ryan, because his issues haven't really impacted my enjoyment of his music at all. The Old 97s were writing songs in the 90s about what a douche he was, so it shouldn't have been a surprise to anyone.


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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
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There's nothing stopping him from continuing his life, from putting music up on bandcamp right now. As always seems to happen, we're confusing "I want freedom of speech and expression" with "I want to be a gigantic douchebag for years on end, suffer zero professional or personal ramifications and get everything I think I'm entitled to."


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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
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Of course. The guy is insufferable and always has been. The purity gauntlet has been laid before him now though, in the year 2020 of our Lord, for some reason.


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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
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I agree that cancel culture is toxic. Anyone that has done the smallest negative thing in the past, and it gets blown up in the news, and they are harassed on social media. Yet, it’s probably more right for the guilty guys in this thread, than in most other circumstances. For instance, I’m sure no one here wants Bill Cosby to go on a comedy tour.


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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
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verb_to_trust wrote:
RM cancel culture has already chimed in though

His statement did not evoke sincerity to me and he has been an insufferable douche for most of his career, if the words are true he set the bar higher so yeah, get to work. I didn't cancel him or whatever the fuck that is but his words aren't exactly gospel.

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
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he can release music and i hope he does. I wont be listening but i never did so...

I think its amusing the guy needs the attention so bad. He needs to talk about it so bad. Its hilarious and pathetic.

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
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Actually you shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion about a recording artist at all.

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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
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Mickey wrote:
Actually you shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion about a recording artist at all.


This is the most Mickey post we've had in weeks.

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Mickey wrote:
Actually you shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion about a recording artist at all.


The vibe here is "Ha! Nice try, but this doesn't meet my purity standard, and since I only listen to Chris Cornell anyway, this dude can stay in the well."


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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
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I only said that I can't listen to him.

I don't think I cancelled him.


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 Post subject: Re: Bill Cosby's Pudding Pop & Other Sexual Assault Stuff
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verb_to_trust wrote:
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Actually you shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion about a recording artist at all.


The vibe here is "Ha! Nice try, but this doesn't meet my purity standard, and since I only listen to Chris Cornell anyway, this dude can stay in the well."


Sure but who cares. No one here is trying to get him removed from the radio, dropped by his label, or banned from touring. There are a million musicians I'll never be a fan of for more or less ideosyncratic reasons, ranging from "I don't like that music" to "I can't be bothered to even know who that is," so it's a huge stretch to say that RM is trying to "cancel" him by simply adding him to the pile of folks you don't pay attention to.

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