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shinkdew · **Joined:** Thu January 03, 2013 2:59 am **Posts:** 275

mray10 wrote:

Stip wrote:

refresh my memory about the Barry Sorrento thing?

I get the Hussein thing. It's foreign sounding and it'll play to certain hostile nativist elements. The teleprompter jokes always seemed kinda pointless. What major political speaker won't use teleprompters?

Lincoln was a truly great speaker because he read his speeches off paper, not some dandy teleprompter!

Yeah, I've never understood that one, either.

It's not that he reads speeches off the teleprompter. It's that when he doesn't have the teleprompter he uhhh, uhhh sounds uhhh, uhhhhh like uhhhh not very uhhhh intelligent. To be honest it's kind of amazing he's a lawyer. His verbal and negotiation skills are both terrible, things most lawyers excel at.

broken iris · **Posted:** Thu January 03, 2013 6:30 pm

shinkdew wrote:

mray10 wrote:

Stip wrote:

refresh my memory about the Barry Sorrento thing?

I get the Hussein thing. It's foreign sounding and it'll play to certain hostile nativist elements. The teleprompter jokes always seemed kinda pointless. What major political speaker won't use teleprompters?

Lincoln was a truly great speaker because he read his speeches off paper, not some dandy teleprompter!

Yeah, I've never understood that one, either.

It's not that he reads speeches off the teleprompter. It's that when he doesn't have the teleprompter he uhhh, uhhh sounds uhhh, uhhhhh like uhhhh not very uhhhh intelligent. To be honest it's kind of amazing he's a lawyer. His verbal and negotiation skills are both terrible, things most lawyers excel at.

To be fair, giving a speech as President of 'Merica is probably much harder than typical legal work for a Constitutional scholar.

Chris_H_2 · **Posted:** Thu January 03, 2013 8:23 pm

shinkdew wrote:

mray10 wrote:

Stip wrote:

refresh my memory about the Barry Sorrento thing?

I get the Hussein thing. It's foreign sounding and it'll play to certain hostile nativist elements. The teleprompter jokes always seemed kinda pointless. What major political speaker won't use teleprompters?

Lincoln was a truly great speaker because he read his speeches off paper, not some dandy teleprompter!

Yeah, I've never understood that one, either.

It's not that he reads speeches off the teleprompter. It's that when he doesn't have the teleprompter he uhhh, uhhh sounds uhhh, uhhhhh like uhhhh not very uhhhh intelligent. To be honest it's kind of amazing he's a lawyer. His verbal and negotiation skills are both terrible, things most lawyers excel at.

Don't conflate lawyers with litigators/appellate advocates.

stip · **Joined:** Thu December 13, 2012 6:31 pm **Posts:** 39303

shinkdew wrote:

mray10 wrote:

Stip wrote:

refresh my memory about the Barry Sorrento thing?

I get the Hussein thing. It's foreign sounding and it'll play to certain hostile nativist elements. The teleprompter jokes always seemed kinda pointless. What major political speaker won't use teleprompters?

Lincoln was a truly great speaker because he read his speeches off paper, not some dandy teleprompter!

Yeah, I've never understood that one, either.

It's not that he reads speeches off the teleprompter. It's that when he doesn't have the teleprompter he uhhh, uhhh sounds uhhh, uhhhhh like uhhhh not very uhhhh intelligent. To be honest it's kind of amazing he's a lawyer. His verbal and negotiation skills are both terrible, things most lawyers excel at.

Given how quickly off the cuff remarks can get taken out of context and turned into little mini shit storm events I'm not surprised. I suspect this will tragically become more common. It's also probably less about his verbal skills than his improvisational skills. I was one of two people giving a toast at a wedding. The other guy is an actor. I told him that i was nervous about having to follow him since he's probably got such excellent delivery. He said that he does, but only when someone else writes the stuff for him.

Rob · **Posted:** Fri January 04, 2013 10:00 pm

Yea, it seems that gaffes matter more than policy sometimes, so I don't blame Obama for being careful without a teleprompter. And it seems to me that the teleprompter jokes often imply that he's not intelligent, which is ridiculous. It's fine if you think his ideology sucks or if you think he's doing a bad job, but he's certainly an intelligent person.

@SkitchP · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 8:43 pm **Posts:** 9875

Rob wrote:

Yea, it seems that gaffes matter more than policy sometimes, so I don't blame Obama for being careful without a teleprompter. And it seems to me that the teleprompter jokes often imply that he's not intelligent, which is ridiculous. It's fine if you think his ideology sucks or if you think he's doing a bad job, but he's certainly an intelligent person.

WHO ARE YOU

dkfan9 · **Joined:** Fri January 04, 2013 11:12 pm **Posts:** 742

He's Rob.

dkfan9 · **Joined:** Fri January 04, 2013 11:12 pm **Posts:** 742

Really like the Hagel nomination for Defense. Much more worth the fight than Rice would've been at State... she was a pretty generic center left foreign policy person as far as I can tell.

Human Bass · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 6:49 pm **Posts:** 117

McParadigm · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 1:56 am **Posts:** 21789

o snap

dimejinky99 · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am **Posts:** 35430

He signed off on a carte Blanche for Monsanto the other day.
That's pretty fuckin scary and has barely been covered at all

simple schoolboy · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 3:41 am **Posts:** 5581

dimejinky99 wrote:

He signed off on a carte Blanche for Monsanto the other day.
That's pretty fuckin scary and has barely been covered at all

Heh. Frankenfood.

The articles I found didn't have any specifics other than Secretary of Agriculture something something something.

Electromatic · **Joined:** Thu January 03, 2013 6:49 pm **Posts:** 3676

dimejinky99 wrote:

He signed off on a carte Blanche for Monsanto the other day.
That's pretty fuckin scary and has barely been covered at all

He was an Illinois senator after all, why wouldn't he be in bed with Monsanto everyone else in the midwest is?

dimejinky99 · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am **Posts:** 35430

It was legislation saying that Monsanto didn't have to state their products had GM food in them. Apparently he made a statement previously saying ever American should know what's in their food and especially if GM food was involved. Typical.

simple schoolboy · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 3:41 am **Posts:** 5581

dimejinky99 wrote:

It was legislation saying that Monsanto didn't have to state their products had GM food in them. Apparently he made a statement previously saying ever American should know what's in their food and especially if GM food was involved. Typical.

We love us our GMOs.

broken iris · **Posted:** Thu April 04, 2013 1:11 am

dimejinky99 wrote:

It was legislation saying that Monsanto didn't have to state their products had GM food in them. Apparently he made a statement previously saying ever American should know what's in their food and especially if GM food was involved. Typical.

You mad?

simple schoolboy · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 3:41 am **Posts:** 5581

My girlfriends former hippie parents have some land in North Dakota that a friend plants for them. They were aghast when they learned that 'round-up' ready corn was GMO. :roll:

I don't particularly care about that, but their real crime is that corn is intended for ethanol.

Oh, and they both retired at 60 (possibly younger?) from public sector jobs and are doing quite well for themselves. In a nutshell, the face of the demographic problems in the US.

broken iris · **Posted:** Thu April 04, 2013 11:40 am

From WaPo:

Obama said to pick mega-fundraiser Bruce Heyman for Canada
By Al Kamen

President Obama’s pick to be ambassador to Canada is fellow Chicagoan Bruce Heyman, a Goldman Sachs partner in the Windy City, mega-fundraiser and member of the Obama campaign’s national finance committee, CBC News in Canada reported Wednesday.

Heyman runs a private wealth fund at Goldman Sachs, and his areas of responsibility include parts of Canada, the network reported, noting that he and his wife raised more than $1 million for Obama. He would replace David Jacobson, who’s also from Chicago.

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A Goldman Sachs partner getting a choice spot in the US government? That's Change ™ we can believe in.

broken iris · **Posted:** Tue February 11, 2014 11:36 am

Obama will not bow to lobbyists or fundraisers, unless they want a personal airport on DoD land to park all their private jets:

http://news.yahoo.com/google-subsidiary-run-nearby-federal-airfield-003610841.html

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