Red Mosquito :: View topic - Cops Are The Worst

My uncle's a cop, and he's an ignorant racist who defends the police in every situation.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-unarmed-el-cajon-fatal-shooting-20160928-snap-story.html
Im sure we'll learn more about what happened in El Cajon, but from that still image, seems like the cops were justified. Is Ruddo about? Perhaps he can provide commentary about how close to an isosceles shooting stance that looks like.

If you have a mentally ill family member in crisis, it seems that dialing 911 is usually worse than the status quo. Is there a service that rents restraints and tranquilizers? Maybe try them first.

Look, i get that its frightening to be a cop. I get that a lot of these people shouldnt act the way they do and be threatening to the cop, i get that in the above story he looks like he's getting ready to shoot to kill. I understand.

But an argument earlier in this thread someone said that it might be unreasonable for a cop to have such good aim to not to shoot to kill.

Why? Why is it shoot to kill? Why does it have to be that?

People tend to die when you shoot them

Strat wrote:

Because it's reality. Go to a shooting range. Rent a glock. Put the target 10 yards out. Aim for the shoulder to try to injure them. If successful (doubtful), then try to imagine that target moving around or holding a gun while moving around or pointing a gun at anyone (at you even) while moving around. If the situation gets to a certain level of "this is fucked-ness", triggers get pulled in rapid, narrow fashion. Toss in human error and mental illness and drugged behavior and the social media circus and we have ourselves a crisis.

That's why they have to die. All of them.

Strat wrote:

Because it's reality. Go to a shooting range. Rent a glock. Put the target 10 yards out. Aim for the shoulder to try to injure them. If successful (doubtful), then try to imagine that target moving around or holding a gun while moving around or pointing a gun at anyone (at you even) while moving around. If the situation gets to a certain level of "this is fucked-ness", triggers get pulled in rapid, narrow fashion. Toss in human error and mental illness and drugged behavior and the social media circus and we have ourselves a crisis.

That's why they have to die. All of them.

ffs, strat. check in with reality once in a while.

meatwad wrote:

Not all cops are bad. What's bad, and what's creating these problems, is that the police have become so militarized in this country. Someone somewhere is pushing this agenda because it's in nearly every police force from the biggest cities to the smallest county sheriff's departments. It's like entire police forces have become SWAT teams.

The real question is, if the police are militarized, who is their enemy? Black people? The poor? Mentally ill? Can anyone find articles where an unarmed white person was shot in such a fashion as any of these recent incidents?

This is a really interesting insight.

Police have killed 719 people so far this year, according to a Washington Post examination of fatal force. Like Mann, approximately 1 in 4 of those killed were reported to have some form of mental illness.

Author:	McParadigm [ Mon September 26, 2016 2:35 am ]
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LoathedVermin72 wrote: My uncle's a cop, and he's an ignorant racist who defends the police in every situation. Include a bunch of lines about people whose backs are wet, and other great racial slurs (including bragging about physical violence), and this sounds like my nephew and my wife's cousin. Both cops

Author:	Simple Torture [ Mon September 26, 2016 3:26 am ]
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We all know some racist and/or general asshole cops. But then again, I know and have known some racist and/or general asshole teachers, pharmacists, customer service reps, human resources managers, data entry specialists, super market cashiers, book store employees, priests, bus drivers, regional sales directors, and the lists goes on and on. Every profession is filled with miserable, detestable people who also carry around weapons and are shielded by the law and a culture of "Our guys gotta get home safe," you know what I'm saying? Especially those book store clerks, man.

Author:	E.H. Ruddock [ Mon September 26, 2016 1:33 pm ]
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you forgot "RMers" on that list of yours

Author:	Simple Torture [ Mon September 26, 2016 3:25 pm ]
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I don't know a single RMer who's a racist and/or general asshole.

Author:	Strat [ Mon September 26, 2016 3:26 pm ]
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This McCrory is some kind of fella, ain't he? http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/25/us/charlo ... index.html

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Author:	simple schoolboy [ Thu September 29, 2016 4:50 am ]
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http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-unarmed-el-cajon-fatal-shooting-20160928-snap-story.html Im sure we'll learn more about what happened in El Cajon, but from that still image, seems like the cops were justified. Is Ruddo about? Perhaps he can provide commentary about how close to an isosceles shooting stance that looks like. If you have a mentally ill family member in crisis, it seems that dialing 911 is usually worse than the status quo. Is there a service that rents restraints and tranquilizers? Maybe try them first.

Author:	Redemption [ Thu September 29, 2016 5:54 am ]
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Having had cops point their gun at me-a couple of times-I can say they can be assholes, but that's sorta not the issue at that moment. Looking down the barrel of a loaded gun, yeah, there's no anti establishmentarianism going on whatsoever. At this point I just hope the local cops are on my side when the zombies start crawling out of their graves. #becausezombies

Author:	E.H. Ruddock [ Thu September 29, 2016 2:37 pm ]
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simple schoolboy wrote: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-unarmed-el-cajon-fatal-shooting-20160928-snap-story.html Im sure we'll learn more about what happened in El Cajon, but from that still image, seems like the cops were justified. Is Ruddo about? Perhaps he can provide commentary about how close to an isosceles shooting stance that looks like. If you have a mentally ill family member in crisis, it seems that dialing 911 is usually worse than the status quo. Is there a service that rents restraints and tranquilizers? Maybe try them first. Ugh, why is he standing like that?

Author:	Strat [ Thu September 29, 2016 4:27 pm ]
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Look, i get that its frightening to be a cop. I get that a lot of these people shouldnt act the way they do and be threatening to the cop, i get that in the above story he looks like he's getting ready to shoot to kill. I understand. But an argument earlier in this thread someone said that it might be unreasonable for a cop to have such good aim to not to shoot to kill. Why? Why is it shoot to kill? Why does it have to be that?

Author:	LoathedVermin72 [ Thu September 29, 2016 10:29 pm ]
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People tend to die when you shoot them

Author:	Kaius [ Fri September 30, 2016 4:47 am ]
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Strat wrote: Look, i get that its frightening to be a cop. I get that a lot of these people shouldnt act the way they do and be threatening to the cop, i get that in the above story he looks like he's getting ready to shoot to kill. I understand. But an argument earlier in this thread someone said that it might be unreasonable for a cop to have such good aim to not to shoot to kill. Why? Why is it shoot to kill? Why does it have to be that? Because it's reality. Go to a shooting range. Rent a glock. Put the target 10 yards out. Aim for the shoulder to try to injure them. If successful (doubtful), then try to imagine that target moving around or holding a gun while moving around or pointing a gun at anyone (at you even) while moving around. If the situation gets to a certain level of "this is fucked-ness", triggers get pulled in rapid, narrow fashion. Toss in human error and mental illness and drugged behavior and the social media circus and we have ourselves a crisis. That's why they have to die. All of them.

Author:	Bammer [ Fri September 30, 2016 4:58 am ]
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Aim for the kneecaps

Author:	simple schoolboy [ Fri September 30, 2016 5:32 am ]
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Kaius wrote: Strat wrote: Look, i get that its frightening to be a cop. I get that a lot of these people shouldnt act the way they do and be threatening to the cop, i get that in the above story he looks like he's getting ready to shoot to kill. I understand. But an argument earlier in this thread someone said that it might be unreasonable for a cop to have such good aim to not to shoot to kill. Why? Why is it shoot to kill? Why does it have to be that? Because it's reality. Go to a shooting range. Rent a glock. Put the target 10 yards out. Aim for the shoulder to try to injure them. If successful (doubtful), then try to imagine that target moving around or holding a gun while moving around or pointing a gun at anyone (at you even) while moving around. If the situation gets to a certain level of "this is fucked-ness", triggers get pulled in rapid, narrow fashion. Toss in human error and mental illness and drugged behavior and the social media circus and we have ourselves a crisis. That's why they have to die. All of them. Rent a Glock with a NY trigger and repeat in case you succeed the first time.

Author:	Strat [ Fri September 30, 2016 2:32 pm ]
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Kaius wrote: Strat wrote: Look, i get that its frightening to be a cop. I get that a lot of these people shouldnt act the way they do and be threatening to the cop, i get that in the above story he looks like he's getting ready to shoot to kill. I understand. But an argument earlier in this thread someone said that it might be unreasonable for a cop to have such good aim to not to shoot to kill. Why? Why is it shoot to kill? Why does it have to be that? Because it's reality. Go to a shooting range. Rent a glock. Put the target 10 yards out. Aim for the shoulder to try to injure them. If successful (doubtful), then try to imagine that target moving around or holding a gun while moving around or pointing a gun at anyone (at you even) while moving around. If the situation gets to a certain level of "this is fucked-ness", triggers get pulled in rapid, narrow fashion. Toss in human error and mental illness and drugged behavior and the social media circus and we have ourselves a crisis. That's why they have to die. All of them. That might be the problem. It seems as though this is how the situation begins and this is how the officers approach it right from the get-go. Also, a lot of cops are ex marines and military. I dont believe that they aren't or can't be trained to be more apt at taking down a suspect instead of taking them out.

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Author:	bart [ Sat October 01, 2016 1:36 am ]
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ffs, strat. check in with reality once in a while.

Author:	verb_to_trust [ Sat October 01, 2016 7:03 am ]
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bart wrote: ffs, strat. check in with reality once in a while. No kidding.

Author:	Kaius [ Sat October 01, 2016 3:53 pm ]
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Strat's reality is beautiful mountains and snow and his dog and music and beer and yoga women and that's perfectly fine.

Author:	Superblood Wolfmoon [ Sat October 01, 2016 11:51 pm ]
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LoathedVermin72 wrote: meatwad wrote: Not all cops are bad. What's bad, and what's creating these problems, is that the police have become so militarized in this country. Someone somewhere is pushing this agenda because it's in nearly every police force from the biggest cities to the smallest county sheriff's departments. It's like entire police forces have become SWAT teams. The real question is, if the police are militarized, who is their enemy? Black people? The poor? Mentally ill? Can anyone find articles where an unarmed white person was shot in such a fashion as any of these recent incidents? This is a really interesting insight. This is just absolutely awful: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... 7ad8c4f47f And from the article, pertaining to what I posited above: Quote: Police have killed 719 people so far this year, according to a Washington Post examination of fatal force. Like Mann, approximately 1 in 4 of those killed were reported to have some form of mental illness.