Mon September 26, 2016 2:35 am
LoathedVermin72 wrote:My uncle's a cop, and he's an ignorant racist who defends the police in every situation.
Mon September 26, 2016 3:26 am
Mon September 26, 2016 1:33 pm
Mon September 26, 2016 3:25 pm
Mon September 26, 2016 3:26 pm
Thu September 29, 2016 4:50 am
Thu September 29, 2016 5:54 am
Thu September 29, 2016 2:37 pm
simple schoolboy wrote:http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-unarmed-el-cajon-fatal-shooting-20160928-snap-story.html
Im sure we'll learn more about what happened in El Cajon, but from that still image, seems like the cops were justified. Is Ruddo about? Perhaps he can provide commentary about how close to an isosceles shooting stance that looks like.
If you have a mentally ill family member in crisis, it seems that dialing 911 is usually worse than the status quo. Is there a service that rents restraints and tranquilizers? Maybe try them first.
Thu September 29, 2016 4:27 pm
Thu September 29, 2016 10:28 pm
Strat wrote:Look, i get that its frightening to be a cop. I get that a lot of these people shouldnt act the way they do and be threatening to the cop, i get that in the above story he looks like he's getting ready to shoot to kill. I understand.
But an argument earlier in this thread someone said that it might be unreasonable for a cop to have such good aim to not to shoot to kill.
Why? Why is it shoot to kill? Why does it have to be that?
Thu September 29, 2016 10:29 pm
Thu September 29, 2016 10:34 pm
LoathedVermin72 wrote:People tend to die when you shoot them
Fri September 30, 2016 4:47 am
Strat wrote:Look, i get that its frightening to be a cop. I get that a lot of these people shouldnt act the way they do and be threatening to the cop, i get that in the above story he looks like he's getting ready to shoot to kill. I understand.
But an argument earlier in this thread someone said that it might be unreasonable for a cop to have such good aim to not to shoot to kill.
Why? Why is it shoot to kill? Why does it have to be that?
Fri September 30, 2016 4:58 am
Fri September 30, 2016 5:32 am
Kaius wrote:Strat wrote:Look, i get that its frightening to be a cop. I get that a lot of these people shouldnt act the way they do and be threatening to the cop, i get that in the above story he looks like he's getting ready to shoot to kill. I understand.
But an argument earlier in this thread someone said that it might be unreasonable for a cop to have such good aim to not to shoot to kill.
Why? Why is it shoot to kill? Why does it have to be that?
Because it's reality. Go to a shooting range. Rent a glock. Put the target 10 yards out. Aim for the shoulder to try to injure them. If successful (doubtful), then try to imagine that target moving around or holding a gun while moving around or pointing a gun at anyone (at you even) while moving around. If the situation gets to a certain level of "this is fucked-ness", triggers get pulled in rapid, narrow fashion. Toss in human error and mental illness and drugged behavior and the social media circus and we have ourselves a crisis.
That's why they have to die. All of them.
Fri September 30, 2016 2:32 pm
Kaius wrote:Strat wrote:Look, i get that its frightening to be a cop. I get that a lot of these people shouldnt act the way they do and be threatening to the cop, i get that in the above story he looks like he's getting ready to shoot to kill. I understand.
But an argument earlier in this thread someone said that it might be unreasonable for a cop to have such good aim to not to shoot to kill.
Why? Why is it shoot to kill? Why does it have to be that?
Because it's reality. Go to a shooting range. Rent a glock. Put the target 10 yards out. Aim for the shoulder to try to injure them. If successful (doubtful), then try to imagine that target moving around or holding a gun while moving around or pointing a gun at anyone (at you even) while moving around. If the situation gets to a certain level of "this is fucked-ness", triggers get pulled in rapid, narrow fashion. Toss in human error and mental illness and drugged behavior and the social media circus and we have ourselves a crisis.
That's why they have to die. All of them.
Sat October 01, 2016 1:36 am
Sat October 01, 2016 7:03 am
bart wrote:ffs, strat. check in with reality once in a while.
Sat October 01, 2016 3:53 pm
Sat October 01, 2016 11:51 pm
LoathedVermin72 wrote:meatwad wrote:Not all cops are bad. What's bad, and what's creating these problems, is that the police have become so militarized in this country. Someone somewhere is pushing this agenda because it's in nearly every police force from the biggest cities to the smallest county sheriff's departments. It's like entire police forces have become SWAT teams.
The real question is, if the police are militarized, who is their enemy? Black people? The poor? Mentally ill? Can anyone find articles where an unarmed white person was shot in such a fashion as any of these recent incidents?
This is a really interesting insight.
Police have killed 719 people so far this year, according to a Washington Post examination of fatal force. Like Mann, approximately 1 in 4 of those killed were reported to have some form of mental illness.