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 Post subject: Re: Cops Are The Worst
PostPosted: Mon September 26, 2016 2:35 am 
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
My uncle's a cop, and he's an ignorant racist who defends the police in every situation.

Include a bunch of lines about people whose backs are wet, and other great racial slurs (including bragging about physical violence), and this sounds like my nephew and my wife's cousin. Both cops

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PostPosted: Mon September 26, 2016 3:26 am 
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We all know some racist and/or general asshole cops. But then again, I know and have known some racist and/or general asshole teachers, pharmacists, customer service reps, human resources managers, data entry specialists, super market cashiers, book store employees, priests, bus drivers, regional sales directors, and the lists goes on and on. Every profession is filled with miserable, detestable people who also carry around weapons and are shielded by the law and a culture of "Our guys gotta get home safe," you know what I'm saying? Especially those book store clerks, man.

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PostPosted: Mon September 26, 2016 1:33 pm 
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you forgot "RMers" on that list of yours

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I don't know a single RMer who's a racist and/or general asshole.

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This McCrory is some kind of fella, ain't he?

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 Post subject: Re: Cops Are The Worst
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http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-unarmed-el-cajon-fatal-shooting-20160928-snap-story.html
Im sure we'll learn more about what happened in El Cajon, but from that still image, seems like the cops were justified. Is Ruddo about? Perhaps he can provide commentary about how close to an isosceles shooting stance that looks like.

If you have a mentally ill family member in crisis, it seems that dialing 911 is usually worse than the status quo. Is there a service that rents restraints and tranquilizers? Maybe try them first.


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 Post subject: Re: Cops Are The Worst
PostPosted: Thu September 29, 2016 5:54 am 
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Having had cops point their gun at me-a couple of times-I can say they can be assholes, but that's sorta not the issue at that moment.

Looking down the barrel of a loaded gun, yeah, there's no anti establishmentarianism going on whatsoever.



At this point I just hope the local cops are on my side when the zombies start crawling out of their graves.


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simple schoolboy wrote:
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-unarmed-el-cajon-fatal-shooting-20160928-snap-story.html
Im sure we'll learn more about what happened in El Cajon, but from that still image, seems like the cops were justified. Is Ruddo about? Perhaps he can provide commentary about how close to an isosceles shooting stance that looks like.

If you have a mentally ill family member in crisis, it seems that dialing 911 is usually worse than the status quo. Is there a service that rents restraints and tranquilizers? Maybe try them first.

Ugh, why is he standing like that?

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 Post subject: Re: Cops Are The Worst
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Look, i get that its frightening to be a cop. I get that a lot of these people shouldnt act the way they do and be threatening to the cop, i get that in the above story he looks like he's getting ready to shoot to kill. I understand.

But an argument earlier in this thread someone said that it might be unreasonable for a cop to have such good aim to not to shoot to kill.

Why? Why is it shoot to kill? Why does it have to be that?


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Strat wrote:
Look, i get that its frightening to be a cop. I get that a lot of these people shouldnt act the way they do and be threatening to the cop, i get that in the above story he looks like he's getting ready to shoot to kill. I understand.

But an argument earlier in this thread someone said that it might be unreasonable for a cop to have such good aim to not to shoot to kill.

Why? Why is it shoot to kill? Why does it have to be that?


Its shoot to incapacitate, which generally requires a rapid drop in blood pressure or damage to the central nervous system. These sorts of things just happen to often result in death.


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 Post subject: Re: Cops Are The Worst
PostPosted: Thu September 29, 2016 10:29 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Cops Are The Worst
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
People tend to die when you shoot them


A firearm is not the correct tool to use to disarm someone if you want them to survive. Should cops get trained on Indiana Jones whip tricks?


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 Post subject: Re: Cops Are The Worst
PostPosted: Fri September 30, 2016 4:47 am 
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Strat wrote:
Look, i get that its frightening to be a cop. I get that a lot of these people shouldnt act the way they do and be threatening to the cop, i get that in the above story he looks like he's getting ready to shoot to kill. I understand.

But an argument earlier in this thread someone said that it might be unreasonable for a cop to have such good aim to not to shoot to kill.

Why? Why is it shoot to kill? Why does it have to be that?

Because it's reality. Go to a shooting range. Rent a glock. Put the target 10 yards out. Aim for the shoulder to try to injure them. If successful (doubtful), then try to imagine that target moving around or holding a gun while moving around or pointing a gun at anyone (at you even) while moving around. If the situation gets to a certain level of "this is fucked-ness", triggers get pulled in rapid, narrow fashion. Toss in human error and mental illness and drugged behavior and the social media circus and we have ourselves a crisis.

That's why they have to die. All of them.


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 Post subject: Re: Cops Are The Worst
PostPosted: Fri September 30, 2016 5:32 am 
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Strat wrote:
Look, i get that its frightening to be a cop. I get that a lot of these people shouldnt act the way they do and be threatening to the cop, i get that in the above story he looks like he's getting ready to shoot to kill. I understand.

But an argument earlier in this thread someone said that it might be unreasonable for a cop to have such good aim to not to shoot to kill.

Why? Why is it shoot to kill? Why does it have to be that?

Because it's reality. Go to a shooting range. Rent a glock. Put the target 10 yards out. Aim for the shoulder to try to injure them. If successful (doubtful), then try to imagine that target moving around or holding a gun while moving around or pointing a gun at anyone (at you even) while moving around. If the situation gets to a certain level of "this is fucked-ness", triggers get pulled in rapid, narrow fashion. Toss in human error and mental illness and drugged behavior and the social media circus and we have ourselves a crisis.

That's why they have to die. All of them.


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 Post subject: Re: Cops Are The Worst
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Strat wrote:
Look, i get that its frightening to be a cop. I get that a lot of these people shouldnt act the way they do and be threatening to the cop, i get that in the above story he looks like he's getting ready to shoot to kill. I understand.

But an argument earlier in this thread someone said that it might be unreasonable for a cop to have such good aim to not to shoot to kill.

Why? Why is it shoot to kill? Why does it have to be that?

Because it's reality. Go to a shooting range. Rent a glock. Put the target 10 yards out. Aim for the shoulder to try to injure them. If successful (doubtful), then try to imagine that target moving around or holding a gun while moving around or pointing a gun at anyone (at you even) while moving around. If the situation gets to a certain level of "this is fucked-ness", triggers get pulled in rapid, narrow fashion. Toss in human error and mental illness and drugged behavior and the social media circus and we have ourselves a crisis.

That's why they have to die. All of them.


That might be the problem. It seems as though this is how the situation begins and this is how the officers approach it right from the get-go.

Also, a lot of cops are ex marines and military. I dont believe that they aren't or can't be trained to be more apt at taking down a suspect instead of taking them out.


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 Post subject: Re: Cops Are The Worst
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ffs, strat. check in with reality once in a while.


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 Post subject: Re: Cops Are The Worst
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ffs, strat. check in with reality once in a while.


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 Post subject: Re: Cops Are The Worst
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
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Not all cops are bad. What's bad, and what's creating these problems, is that the police have become so militarized in this country. Someone somewhere is pushing this agenda because it's in nearly every police force from the biggest cities to the smallest county sheriff's departments. It's like entire police forces have become SWAT teams.

The real question is, if the police are militarized, who is their enemy? Black people? The poor? Mentally ill? Can anyone find articles where an unarmed white person was shot in such a fashion as any of these recent incidents?

This is a really interesting insight.


This is just absolutely awful:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... 7ad8c4f47f

And from the article, pertaining to what I posited above:

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Police have killed 719 people so far this year, according to a Washington Post examination of fatal force. Like Mann, approximately 1 in 4 of those killed were reported to have some form of mental illness.

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