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One of my highschool classmates recently became a sheriff's deputy. You may call it hyperbole, but I can only consider him to be the moral equivalent of a 'good german' in regards to the war on drugs and other iniquities of the justice system. This judgement is in conflict with my own experience because he is a decent, thoughtful person. I certainly hope the job won't change him.
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 2:00 pm Posts: 382 Location: Buffalo, NY
I've been tempted a few times to come into this thread and state my utter dislike and disdain for police officers but for some reason I never had until I read this one. What a dick.
Nala, a 7-year-old Chinese shar-pei breed, went missing Saturday from her home in Baltimore.
The same day, officers responded to a call that a dog had bitten a woman. The dog was Nala, whom police restrained using a pole around her neck, authorities said.
Shortly afterward, Officer Jeffrey Bolger cut Nala's throat with a knife, even though she was contained, according to police spokesman Eric Kowalczy.
She later died.
"It was a complete violation of protocol," Kowalczy said. "It's not often police speak out against one of their own, but we are all truly appalled."
Just before they got to the scene, Bolger was overheard saying, "I'm going to gut this (expletive) thing," according to charging documents.
Nala's owner, Sarah Gossard, said police did not give her details on how Nala died until Wednesday.
I don't hate cops. I just can't figure out why bad copping is tolerated.
Its pretty simple, really: all the incentives are opposite of what you or I would consider good policing.
The Drug war brings in both civil asset forfeitures and federal grants, so it makes sense that departments follow the money. The drug war requires the best of police work (ie) 1 am flash bang raids.
In addition to the delightful shock and awe tactics, modern policing requires that any officer suspected of wrongdoing get access to the union rep who gets first look at the evidence so they can concoct a plausible story.We can imagine what would happen if any "civilian" suspected of a crime was given first access to evidence: a closure rate of just above zero.
In the totality of circumstances, I find no reason to sympathize with dead cops more than anyone else, or really, to sympathize with them at all.
I'm not sure that withholding sympathy for dead cops is ok either. No sympathy for a bad cop sure - but cops in general - no. I still have optimism that a bad cop shop can become a good cop shop.
When are homeless people considered no better than feral cats?
When cops are out wearing their Bass Pro Shop best when they shoot a homeless man in Albuquerque. The man was probably a legitimate local pain in the ass, but is shooting him warranted? Geezo.
I'm not sure that withholding sympathy for dead cops is ok either. No sympathy for a bad cop sure - but cops in general - no. I still have optimism that a bad cop shop can become a good cop shop.
When are homeless people considered no better than feral cats?
When cops are out wearing their Bass Pro Shop best when they shoot a homeless man in Albuquerque. The man was probably a legitimate local pain in the ass, but is shooting him warranted? Geezo.
The video evidence has gone viral.
No, yeah, I really worry about these guys. I hope they all live to be a hundred and have no trouble sleeping at night.
Ellis, an infantryman in Iraq whose family says he had post-traumatic stress disorder, was pulled over one morning in January 2010. Police said Ellis' plates didn't match his car.
When a police car pinned his car in from behind, the 25-year-old flipped. He got out of his car, put a pistol to his head, called his mom and asked her to come help. Annelle Wharton, his mother, got stopped a few blocks away.
"I got here in less than 10 minutes," she says. "And the cop said, 'Here let me get you away from the media,' and put me in the back of a squad car."
Police at the scene later testified that Ellis took one step toward an officer, still with the gun to his own head. Another officer shot Ellis, once, in the neck.
"They drove me up here and drove me right by him," Wharton says, "and I could see his body under the sheets."
The shooter went through the standard procedures: an internal police review and a grand jury. The killing was deemed justified.
And so it was with dozens more killings over the next four years. Kenneth Ellis II and other victims' relatives started going to meetings, gathering signatures on petitions, staging demonstrations, and suing the city.
Shannon Kennedy, who represents some of the families, says police treat suspects as if they don't have rights.
"In America, no one is above the law, and no one is below the law," she says. "And what happened in the city of Albuquerque is [police] officers were put above the law, and people with mental illness and people with criminal histories were put below the law, and that is what has got to be addressed here."
In March of this year, police responded to a 911 call saying a homeless man, later identified as James Boyd, was disturbing people in the foothills outside the city. Police .
After an hours-long standoff, Boyd agreed to come down the rocky hill. He grabbed his backpack, then police released a sound grenade, and a dog. Boyd grabbed two pocket knives and swiped at the dog. A police officer yelled for him to get on the ground, and Boyd started to turn away.
Two officers fired four live rounds. Boyd died. Police released the video to show it was a justified use of force.
People in the community were furious. Hundreds .
Then in April, the Justice Department , saying Albuquerque police regularly encounter people who do not pose a threat but then escalate tensions until those people do pose a threat.
After those findings came two more shooting deaths, and more protests. One victim was a 19-year-old woman who police say waved a gun during a foot chase.
The officers in these cases rarely get a chance to tell their stories because they could be used against them in court. The city already has paid tens of millions of dollars to shooting victims' families.
Shaun Willoughby, vice president of the local police union, says Albuquerque is a violent place. Civilians simply need to be educated about what police can and can't do.
"I'm shocked every time somebody from our community asks me, 'Well why didn't you just shoot the gun out of his hand?' Because we're not ninjas, and that's not realistic," Willoughby says. "So I think there's a huge breakdown of communication, what the expectations are, and what the reality behind the outcome is."
Albuquerque police will now get crisis intervention training, and they'll no longer be able use their own personal weapons on duty or shoot at moving cars. Police say more change will come once the city and the Justice Department agree on a plan.
The feds are also investigating the Boyd shooting in the foothills, and legal sources here say the feds might reopen other cases, too, like the Ellis case.
That would be good news for Annelle Wharton and her husband, Kenneth Ellis II, standing in that 7-Eleven parking lot. Their grandson in a civil lawsuit.
But still, they say, police need to be punished. "I think they need to go; I think they need to change out," Wharton says.
"Needs to be some indictments, and there need to be some officers put in jail and held accountable to the laws they've sworn to uphold," Ellis says.
We used to tell our kids the police were here to keep us safe, Wharton says. But now, none of us feels safe.
"See how he suddenly turned defiant when, as he was complying with our demands, we set off a flash bang and released the hounds? We HAD to do it!"
Joined: Sat June 07, 2014 5:38 pm Posts: 5401 Location: The town of Lincoln, Nebraska
One of my best friends is a cop in Council Bluffs, Iowa. Oh the stories he has haha. He is a good dude though. There are a LOT of dirty cops and cops who think they walk on water. It's a shame really.
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The moment Paul Trott let his two dogs out in the backyard he could see a problem. Someone had broken the gate at the rear of the yard, and the dogs made a dash for the opening and into the alley beyond.
As his partner Josh Lyczkowski ran out the door to collect the dogs, they heard someone in the alley shout “No! Don’t! Stop!,” according to Lyczkowski. Then they heard a gunshot.
Their largest dog, Tito, a Cane Corso that weighed about 120 pounds, had been fatally shot in the head. Lyczkowski arrived so soon after the shooting that the police officer who shot the dog still had his gun drawn. Tito, who was nearly two years old, was killed two garages down the alley from Lyczkowski’s property.
Lyczkowski said the tragedy was that Tito was a gentle giant known in the neighborhood for being friendly. “He’s a sweetheart,” said Lyczkowski. “They claimed Tito had lunged at [the officer]; if anything Tito would have been playful.”
The episode played out in a matter of seconds on July 18 in the 3900 block of Aldrich Avenue N. It had the Minneapolis Police Department on the defensive Tuesday as a police spokesman issued a statement calling the shooting “sad and unfortunate.” “The decision to shoot, or harm, an animal is not made lightly, but at times must be made immediately. Officers have no way of knowing the history of the animal, or what the animal may do,” the statement read. It’s not uncommon for a police officer to shoot a dog; it’s happened most recently in Minneapolis during raids on suspected drug dealing houses, a place where a dog might be trained to attack police officers. State statute 609.066 authorizes the use of deadly force by a police officer when necessary to protect the officer from great bodily harm or death. In this case, according to a police report filed in the incident, the dogs “ran at the officer and would not stop.”
Soon after the shooting, Lyczkowski and Trott learned that a man suspected of stealing a car had broken their rear gate while fleeing from police officers. The officers were in the neighborhood because they had been searching for him.
Lyczkowski said after the shooting the officers asked him if he wanted to hear an apology from the suspected car thief, who had been captured. Lyczkowski said yes, and the police brought the man to Lyczkowski, who vented his frustrations about his dog’s death. The police blamed the shooting on the car thief and the broken gate, Lyczkowski said, but he was left fuming. “They should be trained not to murder housepets,” he said.
Lyczkowski said his other dog, a Cane Corso named Vita, ran back into the house after Tito was shot. The scene was taped off and Tito’s body was eventually taken away by city animal control officials.
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am Posts: 35364
Irish cops at their worst, dragging a guy by the feet, leaving his head scrape along the ground, and then of course he has an epileptic fit and they fuck it up, as they always do http://youtu.be/nQwpP8gwiz4
Joined: Fri November 15, 2013 6:14 am Posts: 11136
As much as I hate that someone's pet was killed, you can't fault the cop in that situation, considering the information provided. Cane Corsos are powerful dogs that can maim or kill quickly if they want to. Their reputations are similar to that of pit bulls, so there's also that stigma attached.
This one has had me thinking less about cops and more about how strange it is that America seems to be more racist today than it was ten years ago.
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Why are black people so racist? Seems that at an early age they are taught by their mothers or grandmothers to hate white people. Not by the fathers, their not in the home.
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Most (not all, but most) blacks are savages and need to be put down like mad dogs
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 7:41 am Posts: 19693 Location: Cumberland, RI
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More proof that after 400+ years here, African Americans still act more African than American. If you want to go tear down things, go back to the jungle. The US isn't the place for these types of shenanigans.
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on that show cops they tell the blacks they are going to release the dog and the blacks never obey the cops and the dog is released can you say dummmmb nigggggggga
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He has that "you gonna eat yo cornbread?" look on his face in the picture.
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