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 Post subject: Re: Masculism
PostPosted: Tue December 09, 2014 8:07 pm 
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Touchy subject that i suspect is going to cause more than a scandal in the future. There are cancers that are common and very often deadly that don't get much attention and i suspect are less researched than they should be.


Oh, definitely.

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The current state of affairs I would mostly chalk up to too much progressive change that was never analyzed fro effectiveness before implementation and a strong influx of 2nd and 3rd wave feminism which has to some extent demonized boys for being boys.


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 Post subject: Re: Masculism
PostPosted: Tue December 09, 2014 8:31 pm 
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Touchy subject that i suspect is going to cause more than a scandal in the future. There are cancers that are common and very often deadly that don't get much attention and i suspect are less researched than they should be.


Oh, definitely.

http://www.cancer.org/cancer/lungcancer ... statistics
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Lung cancer (both small cell and non-small cell) is the second most common cancer in both men and women (not counting skin cancer). In men, prostate cancer is more common, while in women breast cancer is more common. Lung cancer accounts for about 13% of all new cancers.

The American Cancer Society’s estimates for lung cancer in the United States for 2014 are:

About 224,210 new cases of lung cancer (116,000 in men and 108,210 in women)
An estimated 159,260 deaths from lung cancer (86,930 in men and 72,330 among women).
Lung cancer accounts for about 27% of all cancer deaths and is by far the leading cause of cancer death among both men and women. Each year, more people die of lung cancer than of colon, breast, and prostate cancers combined.


You'd expect that a disease with these kind of statistics attached would have awareness/fund raising campaigns organised especially considering is the "by far the leading cause of cancer death".


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The current state of affairs I would mostly chalk up to too much progressive change that was never analyzed fro effectiveness before implementation and a strong influx of 2nd and 3rd wave feminism which has to some extent demonized boys for being boys.


Look at all the progressive change:

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Nearly 1 in 5 boys will be prescribed ADHD medication before reaching the age of 20.
Teacher praise tends to be more related to following the given directions and not getting on teachers nerves than anything else.


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 Post subject: Re: Masculism
PostPosted: Tue December 09, 2014 8:39 pm 
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You'd expect that a disease with these kind of statistics attached would have awareness/fund raising campaigns organised especially considering is the "by far the leading cause of cancer death".


Technically, there is a lot of awareness work. Smoking is responsible for an estimated 80-85% of lung cancer deaths, and there's plenty of anti-smoking campaigning.

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Teacher praise tends to be more related to following the given directions and not getting on teachers nerves than anything else.

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 Post subject: Re: Masculism
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You'd expect that a disease with these kind of statistics attached would have awareness/fund raising campaigns organised especially considering is the "by far the leading cause of cancer death".


Technically, there is a lot of awareness work. Smoking is responsible for an estimated 80-85% of lung cancer deaths, and there's plenty of anti-smoking campaigning.

But it's not proportional to those numbers and anti-smoking campaigning isn't (lung) cancer specific and i believe not conducted well. We have cautionary messages on cigarette packs where "causes early ageing" and "causes death by lung cancer" is put on the same level. Completely pointless.
My point is that there is barely anything done to make people understand how common and deadly lung cancers are.


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 Post subject: Re: Masculism
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The Vanishing Male Worker: How America Fell Behind
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/12/upsho ... .html?_r=0


Key points: - The percentage of men 25-54 who are unemployed has tripled in the last 50 years. In 2009, it was 1 in 5.
- 85 percent of prime-age men without jobs do not have bachelor’s degrees (concerning, considering current trends in male attendance at universities)
- The number of unemployed men at any given time is more than double the total number of job openings for all applicants


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ANNAPOLIS, Md. — Frank Walsh still pays dues to the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, but more than four years have passed since his name was called at the union hall where the few available jobs are distributed. Mr. Walsh, his wife and two children live on her part-time income and a small inheritance from his mother, which is running out.

Sitting in the food court at a mall near his Maryland home, he sees that some of the restaurants are hiring. He says he can’t wait much longer to find a job. But he’s not ready yet.

“I’d work for them, but they’re only willing to pay $10 an hour,” he said, pointing at a Chick-fil-A that probably pays most of its workers less than that. “I’m 49 with two kids — $10 just isn’t going to cut it.”

Working, in America, is in decline. The share of prime-age men — those 25 to 54 years old — who are not working has more than tripled since the late 1960s, to 16 percent. More recently, since the turn of the century, the share of women without paying jobs has been rising, too. The United States, which had one of the highest employment rates among developed nations as recently as 2000, has fallen toward the bottom of the list.

As the economy slowly recovers from the Great Recession, many of those men and women are eager to find work and willing to make large sacrifices to do so. Many others, however, are choosing not to work, according to a New York Times/CBS News/Kaiser Family Foundation poll that provides a detailed look at the lives of the 30 million Americans 25 to 54 who are without jobs.

Many men, in particular, have decided that low-wage work will not improve their lives, in part because deep changes in American society have made it easier for them to live without working. These changes include the availability of federal disability benefits; the decline of marriage, which means fewer men provide for children; and the rise of the Internet, which has reduced the isolation of unemployment.

At the same time, it has become harder for men to find higher-paying jobs. Foreign competition and technological advances have eliminated many of the jobs in which high school graduates like Mr. Walsh once could earn $40 an hour, or more. The poll found that 85 percent of prime-age men without jobs do not have bachelor’s degrees. And 34 percent said they had criminal records, making it hard to find any work.

The resulting absence of millions of potential workers has serious consequences not just for the men and their families but for the nation as a whole. A smaller work force is likely to lead to a slower-growing economy, and will leave a smaller share of the population to cover the cost of government, even as a larger share seeks help.

“They’re not working, because it’s not paying them enough to work,” said Alan B. Krueger, a leading labor economist and a professor at Princeton. “And that means the economy is going to be smaller than it otherwise would be.”

High Costs

The trend was pushed to new heights by the last recession, with 20 percent of prime-age men not working in 2009 before partly receding. But the recovery is unlikely to be complete. Like turtles flipped onto their backs, many people who stop working struggle to get back on their feet. Some people take years to return to the work force, and others never do. And a growing body of research finds that their children, in turn, are less likely to prosper.

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“The long-run effects of this are very high,” said Lawrence F. Katz, a professor of economics at Harvard. “We could be losing the next generation of kids.”

For most unemployed men, life without work is not easy. In follow-up interviews, about two dozen men described days spent mostly at home, chewing through dwindling resources, relying on friends, strangers and the federal government. The poll found that 30 percent had used food stamps, while 33 percent said they had taken food from a nonprofit or religious group.

They are unhappy to be out of work and eager to find new jobs. They are struggling both with the loss of income and a loss of dignity. Their mental and physical health is suffering.

Yet 44 percent of men in the survey said there were jobs in their area they could get but were not willing to take.

José Flores, 45, who lives in St. Paul, said that after losing a job as a translator for the University of Minnesota’s public health department in 2011, he struck a deal with his landlord to pay $200 a month instead of $580, in exchange for doing odd jobs. He has a cellphone that costs $34 a month and an old car he tries not to drive, and “if I really need clothes or shoes, I go to the thrift store.” He picks up occasional work translating at hospitals, but he has not looked for a regular job since August.

“If for some reason I cannot live in the apartment where I live anymore, then that will be basically a wake-up call for me to wake up and say for sure I need a full-time job,” Mr. Flores said. He added, “If I start working full time the rent will increase” — because he would no longer be available for odd jobs.

A Changing Society

Men today may feel less pressure to find jobs because they are less likely than previous generations to be providing for others. Only 28 percent of men without jobs — compared with 58 percent of women — said a child under 18 lived with them.

A study published in October by scholars at the American Enterprise Institute and the Institute for Family Studies estimated that 37 percent of the decline in male employment since 1979 could be explained by this retreat from marriage and fatherhood.

“When the legal, entry-level economy isn’t providing a wage that allows someone a convincing and realistic option to become an adult — to go out and get married and form a household — it demoralizes them and shunts them into illegal economies,” said Philippe Bourgois, an anthropologist at the University of Pennsylvania who has studied the lives of young men in urban areas. “It’s not a choice that has made them happy. They would much rather be adults in a respectful job that pays them and promises them benefits.”

There is also evidence that working has become more expensive. A recent analysis by the Brookings Institution found that prices since 1990 had climbed most quickly for labor-intensive services like child care, health care and education, increasing what might be described as the cost of working: getting a degree, staying healthy, hiring someone to watch the children. Meanwhile, the price of food, clothing, computers and other goods has climbed more slowly.



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And technology has made unemployment less lonely. Tyler Cowen, an economist at George Mason University, argues that the Internet allows men to entertain themselves and find friends and sexual partners at a much lower cost than did previous generations.

Mr. Katz, the Harvard economist, said, however, that some men might choose to describe themselves as unwilling to take low-wage jobs when in fact they cannot find any jobs. There are about 10 million prime-age men who are not working, but there are only 4.8 million job openings for men and women of all ages, according to the most recent federal data.

Millions of men are trying to find work. And among the 45 percent of men who said they had looked in the last year, large majorities said that to get a job they would be willing to work nights and weekends, start over in a new field, return to school or move to a new city.

Adewole Badmus, 29, moved to Houston in August to look for work in the oil industry and, in the evenings, to study for a master’s degree in subsea engineering at the University of Houston. He left his wife in Indianapolis, where she works as a FedEx security officer, until he finds work.

“I hope it will not take much longer,” he said. “I cannot move forward. I cannot move backward. So I just have to keep pushing.”

As an improving economy drives up hiring and wages, some of those on the sidelines also are likely to return to the labor market. Almost half of those who did not seek work in the last year said they wanted to work.

Yet many who have lost jobs will find it difficult to return.

David Muszynski, 51, crushed two nerves in his right leg in 2003 while breaking up a fight at a Black Sabbath concert outside Buffalo, ending his career as a concert technician. He worked eight more years as the manager of a sports bar in Tonawanda, N.Y., until that also became too much of a physical strain. In November, he went on federal disability benefits, replacing 60 percent of his income. Mr. Muszynski lives in a duplex he inherited from his mother, renting out the other unit.

He said he planned to take a night course to learn how to use a computer in the hope of finding a job that will place fewer demands on his body.

“I would rather be working,” he said. “Then I wouldn’t be so bored.”

But few people who qualify for disability return to the work force. Even if they can find work, they are afraid of losing their benefits and then losing their new job.

The decline of work is divisible into three related trends.

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