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| Author: | LoathedVermin72 [ Fri December 15, 2017 3:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Net Neutrality |
Everything’s fine no cause for alarm the corporations will be fair don’t worry |
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| Author: | Kaius [ Fri December 15, 2017 3:22 am ] |
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| Author: | --- [ Fri December 15, 2017 3:30 am ] |
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i'd actually talk about this with cutuphalfdead and a few of the other respectable accounts here, but the clods above appear to have cognitive abilities that would make the comprehension of lego instructions a real challenge |
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| Author: | Kaius [ Fri December 15, 2017 3:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Net Neutrality |
Did you get that air of superiority from the bottle of malbec or is it just the basic "conservative, middle-class Caucasian" kind? |
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| Author: | LoathedVermin72 [ Fri December 15, 2017 3:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Net Neutrality |
Looks like I have a third RMer to add to the foes list. If I wanted those kind of witless insults I’d read a Facebook comment section. |
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| Author: | Kaius [ Fri December 15, 2017 3:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Net Neutrality |
I really want to know who the other two are |
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| Author: | Green Habit [ Fri December 15, 2017 5:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Net Neutrality |
--- wrote: i'd actually talk about this with cutuphalfdead and a few of the other respectable accounts here, but the clods above appear to have cognitive abilities that would make the comprehension of lego instructions a real challenge As I said when I started this thread, I'm (still) not that passionate about this issue, and would be interested in hearing your case, or at least a link to an article you'd endorse on this subject.
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| Author: | BurtReynolds [ Fri December 15, 2017 6:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Net Neutrality |
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| Author: | 4/5 [ Fri December 15, 2017 2:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Net Neutrality |
--- wrote: net neutrality in general just isn't that big of a deal Mostly this. The internet functioned pretty well pre-2015 and will continue to do so. For me it comes down to whether a policy promotes competition (good) or protects companies from competition (bad). |
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| Author: | wease [ Fri December 15, 2017 2:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Net Neutrality |
Zettabytes? I’ve never even heard of such a thing. |
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| Author: | Superblood Wolfmoon [ Fri December 15, 2017 3:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Net Neutrality |
Hate to sound ignorant on the subject, but I was under the impression that the internet was working under net neutrality up until this point. Didn't realize it was only since 2015. 
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| Author: | malice [ Fri December 15, 2017 3:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Net Neutrality |
wease wrote: Zettabytes? I’ve never even heard of such a thing. One zettabyte = one trillion gigabytes |
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| Author: | bune [ Fri December 15, 2017 4:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Net Neutrality |
--- wrote: not surprised to read everyone conflating granting ISPs the ability to manage their networks via the price mechanism with the last-mile local oligopoly/monopoly issue today's development is a net positive, though the benefits are (of course) being oversold by all the interested parties Oh yeah. Because that time they were paid to create better networks and then pocketed the money instead was them managing their networks. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/bruce-ku ... 70035.html http://newnetworks.com/ShortSCANDALSummary.htm https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimf ... 0_billion/ https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131 ... vers.shtml |
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| Author: | 4/5 [ Fri December 15, 2017 5:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Net Neutrality |
bune wrote: --- wrote: not surprised to read everyone conflating granting ISPs the ability to manage their networks via the price mechanism with the last-mile local oligopoly/monopoly issue today's development is a net positive, though the benefits are (of course) being oversold by all the interested parties Oh yeah. Because that time they were paid to create better networks and then pocketed the money instead was them managing their networks. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/bruce-ku ... 70035.html http://newnetworks.com/ShortSCANDALSummary.htm https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimf ... 0_billion/ https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131 ... vers.shtml These articles provide an excellent reminder of the pitfalls governments providing corporate welfare at the public's expense. However, this isn't what yesterday's vote did. It didn't end regulation of ISP's, it returned it to pre-2015 regulation under the oversight of the FTC. I'd also ask you whether your internet service improved from let's say 2000 to 2015 in the absence of net neutrality regulations. What happened to the quality and cost of service as well as the number of options, not only for ISPs but for content as well? Remember, when there aren't barriers to entry and companies face competition they must provide customers with value (lower costs, better service, innovations) to win their business. They do not have power like a government does to force people to do something by edict. Sure, they might be all about their bottom line and desirous of squeezing out every last cent of profit, but they have to please consumers because if they don't somebody else will. (The last paragraph applies to most people in this country that have some level of options for their ISP; some people in rural areas still only have one provider, so their circumstance is different but that isn't what yesterday's rule change was about.) |
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| Author: | bune [ Fri December 15, 2017 5:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Net Neutrality |
I think you're right in that it's going to take a while to see what this vote actually does. There's the abject nakedness of it but there's also the time-will-tell aspect. Emotions are high right now so knees are jerking, my own included. |
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| Author: | Stickman [ Sun December 17, 2017 3:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Net Neutrality |
Here’s How Much TeleCom Industry Gave Each Republican Who Urged FCC To End Net Neutrality BY PETER MELLADO PUBLISHED ON DECEMBER 15, 2017 Ajit Pai, President Trump’s hand-picked Chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, completed his boss’s directive to dismantle net neutrality today. Claiming without evidence that gutting net neutrality would spur innovation, Pai cast the deciding vote on a package of measures that remove the popular Obama-era regulations that prevented internet service providers from controlling the speeds at which content travels across their networks. While Democrats have been united in their opposition to Pai’s plan, net neutrality hasn’t been among the top issues Republicans have been talking about for the past year. Few have offered much more than tacit support for Trump’s plan to hand the keys to the internet over to broadband owners. On the eve of the FCC’s vote, however, 107 GOP members of congress came out of the shadows and sent a letter to Ajit Pai offering their full support for the controversial move. TeleCom providers like Comcast and AT&T have lobbied hard against net neutrality for months, and Republicans in congress have been particularly receptive to their overtures. Kaleigh Rogers and Jason Koebler at Vice News just revealed how receptive they have been. They’ve documented how much in “donations” 84 of those members have received from TeleCom industry giants. Here’s their entire list: Mo Brooks, Alabama, $26,000 Ron Estes, Kansas, $13,807 Thomas Massie, Kentucky, $25,000 Ralph Norman, South Carolina, $15,050 John Moolenaar, Michigan, $25,000 Neal Dunn, Florida, $18,500 Mike Bishop, Michigan, $68,250 Alex Mooney, West Virginia, $17,750 Glenn “GT” Thompson, Pennsylvania, $70,500 Blaine Luetkemeyer, Missouri, $105,000 Paul Gosar, Arizona, $12,250 Richard W. Allen, Georgia, $24,250 Kevin Cramer, North Dakota, $168,500 Greg? Walden, Oregon, $1,605,986 Marsha Blackburn, Tennessee, $600,999 Billy Long, Missouri, $221,500 Gregg Harper, Mississippi, $245,200 Brett Guthrie, Kentucky, $398,500 Bill Johnson, Ohio, $196,666 Jeff Duncan, South Carolina, $41,830 Earl “Buddy” Carter, Georgia, $39,250 Susan Brooks, Indiana, $168,500 Gus Bilirakis, Florida, $234,400 Markwayne Mullin, Oklahoma, $141,750 Mimi Walters, California, $161,500 Joe Barton, Texas, $1,262,757 Bill Flores, Texas, $127,500 Pete Olson, Texas, $220,500 Morgan Griffith, Virginia, $198,900 Tim Walberg, Michigan, $131,850 Fred Upton, Michigan, $1,590,125 Joe Wilson, South Carolina, $104,750 Martha McSally, Arizona, $84,936 Blake Farenthold, Texas, $64,250 Steve Womack, Arkansas, $104,750 Tom Marino, Pennsylvania, $130,700 Louie Gohmert, Texas, $85,055 Walter Jones, North Carolina, $72,800 Leonard Lance, New Jersey, $290,550 Steve Chabot, Ohio, $332,083 Bob Goodlatte, Virginia, $815,099 Andy Biggs, Arizona, $19,500 Mark Walker, North Carolina, $35,750 Glenn Grothman, Wisconsin, $21,200 Ken Buck, Colorado, $79,350 Larry Bucshon, Indiana, $71,750 Chuck Fleischmann, Tennessee, $42,00 David Rouzer, North Carolina, $34,300 Paul Mitchell, Michigan, $18,000 Hal Rogers, Kentucky, $360,450 Doug Collins, Georgia, $103,600 Ralph Abraham, Louisiana, $27,300 Mark Meadows, North Carolina, $14,500 Michael McCaul, Texas, $216,500 Jeb Hensarling, Texas, $270,198 Mike Simpson, Idaho, $125,200 Tom Emmer, Minnesota, $28,500 Randy Weber, Texas, $13,750 Rob Woodall, Georgia, $60,250 Ted Budd, North Carolina, $15,500 Ken Calvert, California, $219,212 Diane Black, Tennessee, $104,750 Virginia Foxx, North Carolina, $115,700 Sam Johnson, Texas, $219,785 James Comer, Kentucky, $22,750 Trey Gowdy, South Carolina, $83,250 Lamar Smith, Texas, $810,462 Steven A King, Iowa, $210,810 George Holding, North Carolina, $97,750 Rob Wittman, Virginia, $57,250 John Lee Ratcliffe, Texas, $53,950 Jason Lewis, Minnesota, $21,050 Jim Banks, Indiana, $16,303 Bill Huizenga, Michigan, $34,000 Bill Shuster, Pennsylvania, $202,500 Steven Russell, Oklahoma, $23,500 Adrian Smith, Nebraska, $165,834 Jody B Hice, Georgia, $21,000 Richard Hudson, North Carolina, $136,750 Douglas L Lamborn, Colorado, $110,543 Chris Collins, New York, $151,060 Cathy McMorris-Rodgers, Washington, $673,530 Brad Wenstrup, Ohio, $33,750 Andy Barr, Kentucky, $51,100 |
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| Author: | wease [ Sun December 17, 2017 4:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Net Neutrality |
All three from TN are running for governor next year. |
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| Author: | simple schoolboy [ Mon December 18, 2017 6:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Net Neutrality |
Has anyone established the overlap between those that love hentai and those that believe than net neutrality is an unquestionable good? |
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| Author: | BurtReynolds [ Tue December 19, 2017 3:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Net Neutrality |
strong correlation |
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| Author: | BurtReynolds [ Tue December 19, 2017 11:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Net Neutrality |
I don't mean to make light of this situation but goddamn who is that brunette in Ajit Pai's cringy video? I want her and will support anything she supports. |
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