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Author:  4/5 [ Thu December 14, 2017 7:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Net Neutrality

cutuphalfdead wrote:
4/5 wrote:
Welp.

My instinct is that the fear of this destroying the internet as we know it is greatly overblown, but the door has certainly been opened, so you never know.

I mean, if they're smart they implement changes gradually so every little step is seen as not that big of a deal until it's too late.

What will have happened by the time it's too late?

Author:  Norris [ Thu December 14, 2017 7:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Net Neutrality

4/5 wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
4/5 wrote:
Welp.

My instinct is that the fear of this destroying the internet as we know it is greatly overblown, but the door has certainly been opened, so you never know.

I mean, if they're smart they implement changes gradually so every little step is seen as not that big of a deal until it's too late.

What will have happened by the time it's too late?

you're paying for tiered access to services and new companies can't compete with established ones because traffic is prioritized for established businesses paying providers for bandwidth

i mean, they've already started with wireless companies not counting data use from certain services like netflix or facebook

Author:  epilogue [ Thu December 14, 2017 9:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Net Neutrality

Do podcasts fall under FCC jurisdiction?

Author:  Strat [ Thu December 14, 2017 10:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Net Neutrality

Ill fucking quitt he internet and read more.

Author:  epilogue [ Thu December 14, 2017 10:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Net Neutrality

srsly

Author:  Simple Torture [ Thu December 14, 2017 10:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Net Neutrality

durdencommatyler wrote:
Do podcasts fall under FCC jurisdiction?


WTH with Marc Maron

Author:  epilogue [ Thu December 14, 2017 10:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Net Neutrality

Simple Torture wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Do podcasts fall under FCC jurisdiction?


WTH with Marc Maron

:haha:

Author:  4/5 [ Thu December 14, 2017 10:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Net Neutrality

cutuphalfdead wrote:
i mean, they've already started with wireless companies not counting data use from certain services like netflix or facebook

But doesn't this benefit the consumer who now gets to watch Netflix without depleting her available data?

If this increases competition among internet providers it can end up being a good thing.

Author:  Norris [ Thu December 14, 2017 10:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Net Neutrality

4/5 wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
i mean, they've already started with wireless companies not counting data use from certain services like netflix or facebook

But doesn't this benefit the consumer who now gets to watch Netflix without depleting her available data?

If this increases competition among internet providers it can end up being a good thing.

but it decreases competition for content providers. how can another company compete with netflix if they have preferred access with the isp?

Author:  4/5 [ Thu December 14, 2017 11:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Net Neutrality

cutuphalfdead wrote:
4/5 wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
i mean, they've already started with wireless companies not counting data use from certain services like netflix or facebook

But doesn't this benefit the consumer who now gets to watch Netflix without depleting her available data?

If this increases competition among internet providers it can end up being a good thing.

but it decreases competition for content providers. how can another company compete with netflix if they have preferred access with the isp?

Also possible. I think that's what makes it tough to know exactly how this will play out. I've read the argument that this will allow internet providers to erect barriers to entry for new content providers, thereby decreasing competition, innovation, etc. in those areas. However, the most direct impact might be to increase competition, innovation, etc. among internet providers. One of those things is good, the other is not. I don't think we know right now which one will end up being the larger effect.

My personal bias, though, is that regulations are often favored by big companies because even though they have to follow strict rules about certain things, it discourages/prevents competition, thereby solidifying their market power by decree rather than by providing better service. So insofar as this reduces barriers to entry and encourages competition, I think it can be good. If it ends up that ISPs end up being a gatekeeper for content services, that would be bad.

Author:  LoathedVermin72 [ Fri December 15, 2017 12:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Net Neutrality

I have precisely zero faith in the removal of regulation in any way benefiting consumers at this point

Author:  bune [ Fri December 15, 2017 12:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Net Neutrality

Just because it's happened precisely zero times* doesn't mean it won't this time! Jeez you guys are Debbie Downers.


*
Spoiler: show
(I know I'm going to eat those words, but bring it on.)

Author:  BurtReynolds [ Fri December 15, 2017 1:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Net Neutrality

What are we all hysterically losing our minds over today, fam?

Author:  daft twat [ Fri December 15, 2017 2:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Net Neutrality

BurtReynolds wrote:
What are we all hysterically losing our minds over today, fam?


Internet providers will soon only accept Bitcoin as payment.

Author:  BurtReynolds [ Fri December 15, 2017 2:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Net Neutrality

daft twat wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
What are we all hysterically losing our minds over today, fam?


Internet providers will soon only accept Bitcoin as payment.

I dont see a problem.

Author:  96583UP [ Fri December 15, 2017 2:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Net Neutrality

4/5 wrote:
erect

Author:  LoathedVermin72 [ Fri December 15, 2017 2:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Net Neutrality

96583UP wrote:
4/5 wrote:
erect

:lol:

Author:  96583UP [ Fri December 15, 2017 3:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Net Neutrality

I for one welcome our new overlords

Author:  --- [ Fri December 15, 2017 3:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Net Neutrality

not surprised to read everyone conflating granting ISPs the ability to manage their networks via the price mechanism with the last-mile local oligopoly/monopoly issue

today's development is a net positive, though the benefits are (of course) being oversold by all the interested parties

Author:  --- [ Fri December 15, 2017 3:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Net Neutrality

also, the left's hysteria and general disingenuousness on this issue has really been something to behold

net neutrality in general just isn't that big of a deal

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