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Tue January 14, 2014 10:47 pm
Tue January 14, 2014 10:50 pm
simple schoolboy wrote:When can we expect to see polygamist same-sex marriages receiving the blessing of the state?
Tue January 14, 2014 11:18 pm
harmless wrote:simple schoolboy wrote:When can we expect to see polygamist same-sex marriages receiving the blessing of the state?
When can we expect to see your slippery slope?
Tue January 14, 2014 11:20 pm
surfndestroy wrote:harmless wrote:simple schoolboy wrote:When can we expect to see polygamist same-sex marriages receiving the blessing of the state?
When can we expect to see your slippery slope?
I honestly can't see why anyone would be against marriage being open to multiple partners. If people can live as married with multiple partners then they should be able to avail themselves to the sames rights and responsibilties and status as those who choose to have just one partner. Woemn and men can both have children with muliple partners and they have all the same rights and responsibilities as parents who choose to have children with just a single partner. Marriage should be no different.
Tue January 14, 2014 11:26 pm
surfndestroy wrote:Woemn and men can both have children with muliple partners and they have all the same rights and responsibilities as parents who choose to have children with just a single partner.
Tue January 14, 2014 11:45 pm
Lament wrote:surfndestroy wrote:Women and men can both have children with muliple partners and they have all the same rights and responsibilities as parents who choose to have children with just a single partner.
Tue January 14, 2014 11:53 pm
surfndestroy wrote:Are you disapproving of the personal choices some people make? Or that the same rights and responsibilities are granted to all?
Wed January 15, 2014 12:04 am
Tell that to step-parents, family members that children sometimes live with, or the parent paying court ordered child support to multiple people.Lament wrote:surfndestroy wrote:Are you disapproving of the personal choices some people make? Or that the same rights and responsibilities are granted to all?
I'm disapproving of these being considered equivalents. Parental rights are extended (initially) to the two people involved in the creation of a child. It's not possible for there to be more than two people involved in this act. The rights extend from the child to the people who created it. A third person who has a child with one of the two parents in question but isn't the parent of the specific child in question isn't extended the same rights with regards to the child. They exist in different units, with a clear line of separation between them. These are not conditions or delineations that exist within a polygamous marriage, so to act like it's an equivalent situation is absurd.
Wed January 15, 2014 1:13 am
Lament wrote:surfndestroy wrote:Are you disapproving of the personal choices some people make? Or that the same rights and responsibilities are granted to all?
I'm disapproving of these being considered equivalents. Parental rights are extended (initially) to the two people involved in the creation of a child. It's not possible for there to be more than two people involved in this act. The rights extend from the child to the people who created it. A third person who has a child with one of the two parents in question but isn't the parent of the specific child in question isn't extended the same rights with regards to the child. They exist in different units, with a clear line of separation between them. These are not conditions or delineations that exist within a polygamous marriage, so to act like it's an equivalent situation is absurd.
Wed January 15, 2014 1:38 am
Wed January 15, 2014 2:00 am
Wed January 15, 2014 2:04 am
surfndestroy wrote:Tell that to step-parents, family members that children sometimes live with, or the parent paying court ordered child support to multiple people.
surfndestroy wrote:If the state can govern and sanction the relationship between a parent with children from multiple partners, I am quite sure they could do the same for adults who want to enter into multiple relationships that provide the same rights and responsibilities as provided to those in a one to one relationship.
Thu January 16, 2014 1:25 pm
Lament wrote: It's not possible for there to be more than two people involved in this act.
Thu January 16, 2014 6:20 pm
Actually you can. Spem donation baby born into a lesbian relationship. All three parents have identical rights. The relationship is between the parent and child. Each additional child has an immediate impact on the rights of any preceding children, namely the right to and the amount of financial support available to them.Lament wrote:surfndestroy wrote:Tell that to step-parents, family members that children sometimes live with, or the parent paying court ordered child support to multiple people.
Gladly. There is a set of rights afforded to birth parents, and when certain rights are given to people who aren't the birth parents, they come at the expense of the birth parents. You don't have more than two people who have IDENTICAL rights in regards to the child.
Thu January 16, 2014 7:30 pm
surfndestroy wrote:I am sorry that you don't feel those in the poly community shouldn't have the same rights, responsibilities, and government support as those in the LBGTQ* and hetero communities have when it comes to marriage.
Thu January 16, 2014 7:45 pm