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Bi_3 · **Joined:** Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm **Posts:** 14208

simple schoolboy wrote:

Where are the promised grid level storage solutions? California is decomissioning its last nuclear plant and will be charging 'surge' pricing from 4 to 9pm in an attempt to balance demand with solar plants going offline in the evenings.

Still leaking in Nevada?

And for those that missed it, we have solved energy generation for the second time in the last 70 years... meet ANEEL:

https://www.popularmechanics.com/scienc ... lear-fuel/

BurtReynolds · **Posted:** Mon May 03, 2021 11:45 pm

Not the best headline...

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... 0pollution.

Brazilian Amazon released more carbon than it absorbed over past 10 years*

Someone should do something about this. Burn it down before it kills us all!

elliseamos · **Posted:** Tue May 04, 2021 1:14 am

BurtReynolds wrote:

Not the best headline...

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... 0pollution.

Brazilian Amazon released more carbon than it absorbed over past 10 years*

Someone should do something about this. Burn it down before it kills us all!

"The study looked at the volume of CO2 absorbed and stored as the forest grows, against the amounts released back into the atmosphere as it has been burned down or destroyed."

As deforestation has increased in this time frame why would this be a surprise?

Bi_3 · **Joined:** Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm **Posts:** 14208

Land usage required for net-zero carbon push:

Article with legend is here, but is pay-walled for me:
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2021 ... e-economy/

McParadigm · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 1:56 am **Posts:** 21805

Considering we can offshore most of the wind, that ain’t bad at all. Not much more than we currently use for ethanol production, really.

Bi_3 · **Joined:** Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm **Posts:** 14208

McParadigm wrote:

Considering we can offshore most of the wind, that ain’t bad at all. Not much more than we currently use for ethanol production, really.

They address this point. zi used my elite computer skills to access the page, more screenshots soon.

Bi_3 · **Joined:** Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm **Posts:** 14208

Here's better captures. that first one is so incomplete I might delete that post to not mislead.

Today:

Proposed:

Data:

https://netzeroamerica.princeton.edu/media

EDIT: For offshore generation we would need to have already been installing roughly 3/day at the start of this year at a density of around 8 per mile of coastline to get to that 11%. This is assuming they last >30 years.

Bi_3 · **Joined:** Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm **Posts:** 14208

elliseamos · **Posted:** Fri May 07, 2021 12:45 am

We should call them names.

Bi_3 · **Joined:** Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm **Posts:** 14208

elliseamos wrote:

We should call them names.

Better idea: spend years negotiating a global climate accord they are exempt from!

elliseamos · **Posted:** Fri May 07, 2021 2:32 am

Bi_3 wrote:

elliseamos wrote:

We should call them names.

Better idea: spend years negotiating a global climate accord they are exempt from!

Isn't the point of that isolation and then a depression?

tragabigzanda · **Posted:** Fri May 07, 2021 2:33 am

Their bubble will burst.

elliseamos · **Posted:** Fri May 07, 2021 2:37 am

tragabigzanda wrote:

Their bubble will burst.

And it will pollute everything.

Bi_3 · **Joined:** Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm **Posts:** 14208

elliseamos wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

elliseamos wrote:

We should call them names.

Better idea: spend years negotiating a global climate accord they are exempt from!

Isn't the point of that isolation and then a depression?

That was what we signed up for, their compliance was voluntary

96583UP · **Joined:** Sun September 15, 2013 5:50 am **Posts:** 22285

shouldn't the world have flooded by now?

that al gore video was 20 years ago

tragabigzanda · **Posted:** Wed May 26, 2021 6:11 pm

Wow!

ExxonMobil rebel shareholders win board seats

Defying management, investors worried about climate change won at least two seats.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate- ... ard-seats/

96583UP · **Joined:** Sun September 15, 2013 5:50 am **Posts:** 22285

tragabigzanda wrote:

Wow!

ExxonMobil rebel shareholders win board seats

Defying management, investors worried about climate change won at least two seats.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate- ... ard-seats/

some pretty hilarious quotes in that article

i wonder when Bill Gates' solar oven will make exxon obsolete?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/19/business/heliogen-solar-energy-bill-gates/index.html

simple schoolboy · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 3:41 am **Posts:** 5584

96583UP wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

Wow!

ExxonMobil rebel shareholders win board seats

Defying management, investors worried about climate change won at least two seats.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate- ... ard-seats/

some pretty hilarious quotes in that article

i wonder when Bill Gates' solar oven will make exxon obsolete?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/19/business/heliogen-solar-energy-bill-gates/index.html

There's no way this becomes anything other than niche. I like the handwaving over thermal storage. Whats the working fluid? Are we just going to move all heavy industry to the southwest?

simple schoolboy · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 3:41 am **Posts:** 5584

If the working fluid is sodium... nukes can do that too.

96583UP · **Joined:** Sun September 15, 2013 5:50 am **Posts:** 22285

rio tinto is partnering w them to build one at a mine in california apparently

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