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 Post subject: Re: Fukushima Radiation poisoning North American shores
PostPosted: Tue December 31, 2013 7:16 pm 
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
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Is any of the news on Fukushima NOT from a panic-inducing conspiracy website?


No need to panic on this one, the homeless of Japan are takin care of the clean up.

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PostPosted: Tue December 31, 2013 10:11 pm 
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I'm real tempted to start a thread highlighting how the processes of coal power fucks up the environment.


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windpower killing birds is equal to all these other pollution factories, so the environments fucked no matter what, guys.


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Hey, guy, I power my house on a careful blend of children's tears and puppy gizzards. So really, I'm outside the problem.

Can you all say the same?

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With the price of children's tears these days? Not in MY America.


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Matt Damon says frakking is bad too.


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Whitey McTeeth wrote:
Matt Damon says frakking is bad too.

the only thing left to do is play rugby against the 1% in their spaceship and then we'll all drive to california to see about a girl.


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elliseamos wrote:
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Matt Damon says frakking is bad too.

the only thing left to do is play rugby against the 1% in their spaceship and then we'll all drive to california to see about a girl.

I love that movie too.


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My favorite part is when they buy that space zoo.


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Whitey McTeeth wrote:
My favorite part is when they buy that space zoo.

i like the act where he forgets who he is and then works as a corrupt cop in boston, only to have sex with leonardo dicaprio and then steal his talented identity.


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 Post subject: Re: Fukushima Radiation poisoning North American shores
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http://www.climatecentral.org/news/fracked-gas-makes-texas-power-supply-less-exposed-to-drought-16876

On the topic of fracking and Matt Damon.


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Green Habit wrote:
I'm real tempted to start a thread highlighting how the processes of coal power fucks up the environment.


Coal mining is the source of Thorium, and Thorium solves our problems for the next 200-300 or until graphene-based solar cells and batteries can be manufactured on an industrial scale.

http://www.npr.org/2012/05/04/152026805/is-thorium-a-magic-bullet-for-our-energy-problems
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/9784044/China-blazes-trail-for-clean-nuclear-power-from-thorium.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24638816

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Matt Damon wasn't in Thor... That story makes no sense.


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broken iris wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
I'm real tempted to start a thread highlighting how the processes of coal power fucks up the environment.


Coal mining is the source of Thorium, and Thorium solves our problems for the next 200-300 or until graphene-based solar cells and batteries can be manufactured on an industrial scale.

http://www.npr.org/2012/05/04/152026805/is-thorium-a-magic-bullet-for-our-energy-problems
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/9784044/China-blazes-trail-for-clean-nuclear-power-from-thorium.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24638816
I only skimmed those articles, but how is the mining for hydrocarbons and thorium intertwined? Is it necessary for mining only for thorium to be as disruptive as typical coal mining is?

I do agree that we should be going full bore on making thorium more promising.


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Green Habit wrote:
I only skimmed those articles, but how is the mining for hydrocarbons and thorium intertwined? Is it necessary for mining only for thorium to be as disruptive as typical coal mining is?


Thorium is one of the byproducts of coal mining (as well as mining rare earth metals). Federal regulations demand it be disposed of at great cost to miners and processors. Industry literally spends millions and millions each year throw away >90% of the energy gathered when producing each ton of coal we get from mines.

Here's Los Alamos on recent advances in Thorium production:
http://www.lanl.gov/science/NSS/issue2_2011/story6full.shtml

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 Post subject: Re: Fukushima Radiation poisoning North American shores
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simple schoolboy wrote:

from the article above:

    But natural gas power plants still use water, and in many cases, new natural gas wells could create a new demand for water in a local area where no previous demand for water existed.

    For example, he said, a new natural gas-fired power plant could replace a coal plant in an area where water supplies are adequate. But the natural gas for the new plant could come from an oil and gas field far away in a dry area where no previous demand for water existed.

    That could create drought vulnerability in a local area even though natural gas power may consume less water than coal statewide, he said.

    “We’re still seeing water development for fracking,” Tidwell said. “It’s still a very local issue.”

color me skeptical.


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 Post subject: Re: Fukushima Radiation poisoning North American shores
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The worst fallacy recorded history creates is that it's easy to predict history. I have a hard time pretending either way that I can understand complex processes based on news articles or that I can confidently measure judgment calls based on the summations of those with a stake in the game.

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