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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
PostPosted: Sat February 18, 2023 4:02 am 
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elliseamos wrote:
First and foremost, do what you want.
Second and last, your two reasons for doing it both carry the "but not always."

I don't even remotely claim to be an expert on this. Learning as I go.

My home state of MA offered mediocre public schools: Not awful, not great. Teachers are paid relatively great. Leadership was lacking, and parental engagement oscillated between wholly disengaged in lower income areas, to insane helicopter parents in higher incomes areas. But people live right on top of each other, and no matter what you do, there's just no escape from provincialism and opiates.

My experience living in Brooklyn as a few friends started having kids was that there are some amazing resources if you can navigate the magnet school system.

And now here in MT, the state legislature has so effectively wrestled control away from local municipalities that our growing city, with an explosive per-household income growth, can not effectively allocate new tax dollars to the over-burdened school district. The vast majority of private schools post-3K are ultraconservative faith-based.


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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
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tragabigzanda wrote:
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We’re thinking pretty seriously about private school for our kid all the way through graduation. This stuff is getting insane. Our local high school district just cut the gifted & talented program DESPITE an exploding tax base due to Covid inflows.

I get the argument “Trag if you pull your kid from public school then their funding decreases and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy!” I just don’t care any more and am basically waiting for my wife to catch up. I don’t view my kid as a testing ground for my particular ideologies about the world; my objective responsibility is to support her getting the best education we can provide her, and I just don’t see it happening in our local public schools any more. I may feel different if this were, say, NYC or something.


My daughter is a senior at a private high school. She went private from pre school to now her last year. My wife mostly wanted it because it was “better” and I balked at the costs. But now I believe it was a good idea.

:thumbsup: I was a public school kid, and both my grandfather and sister were/are public school teachers. My wife went to private school. Life is funny, grass is greener, etc...

Is your girl's school secular or religious? We're opposed to the latter, but the former is in short supply in our neck of the woods. I'm less concerned with artistic/cultural exposure in the classroom, because we can supplement that ourselves as needed. I'm more concerned with exposure to entrepreneurship, and more importantly, a mentor pool that is well-paid and not bogged down in overfull classrooms and administration micromanaging.


Religious (Lutheran). Which is ok since my wife and daughter are more religious than I am. They do have issues with some of the right leaning parents/students and of course she’s getting the religious classes but they really don’t conflict with, say the science they teach. For some reason the creationism in religion classes doesn’t interfere with the evolutionary theories taught in science. It’s all Gods plan, basically.

My wife and I are both products of public school, so I didn’t have a problem with her going to public and saving us a few bucks. Lol. But the few times she tried to go to public (tried at 6th grade and at 9th grade) didn’t work out well so we just decided to let her finish at private.

Since we’re one income household, we’ve had to forgo vacations and I’ve cashed out vacation time every year to help with costs. Grand parents helped in the early years but that stopped around 4th grade.

Since her school is smaller, naturally there are less elective classes or extracurricular activities. So that aspect I feel the public high school might have offered more.

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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
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What didn’t work when she tried public, if you don’t mind sharing?


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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
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spike wrote:
What didn’t work when she tried public, if you don’t mind sharing?


She had a hard time adjusting to the large classes and school in general. She was used to the school work load of private (more work and more deadlines), than the easier work and lax turning in of assignments of public. For some reason she likes to keep busy at school. :haha:

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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
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Good luck to you and yours, trag.


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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
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blueviper wrote:
spike wrote:
What didn’t work when she tried public, if you don’t mind sharing?


She had a hard time adjusting to the large classes and school in general. She was used to the school work load of private (more work and more deadlines), than the easier work and lax turning in of assignments of public. For some reason she likes to keep busy at school. :haha:

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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
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B, please get out of the liberal echo chamber. It's doing you a disservice.


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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
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Bi_3 wrote:
To Increase Equity, School Districts Eliminate Honors Classes:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/to-increase-equity-school-districts-eliminate-honors-classes-d5985dee



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Stunning parents would stand for this, even my uber-proggle district would never try this. I kinda wonder if this is being forced by not having honors level teachers.

At least we're not getting rid of these "exceptional" students.

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tragabigzanda wrote:
B, please get out of the liberal echo chamber. It's doing you a disservice.

I'm sure you guys will keep me grounded.

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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
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This week in education:




Kinda makes sense. If you're not gonna require basic skill mastery from kids before promoting them, give them homework, grade them, require attendance, feed them, reward them when the succeed, enforce discipline in the classroom, why bother even sending them?

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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
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Hey, maybe it translates into more family time for those kids. Haven’t you previously suggested that family values are lacking among today’s youth?


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When both parents work, who is gonna watch the kids all day? It would be different if it was online instruction, this is “self directed learning”

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In my area, SDL is the umbrella phrase used for internships, job shadows, apprenticeships, independent study research projects, among other things.


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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
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Bi_3 wrote:
When both parents work, who is gonna watch the kids all day? It would be different if it was online instruction, this is “self directed learning”

It sounds like the district is planning to offer a daycare option on Mondays for younger kids.


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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
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elliseamos wrote:
In my area, SDL is the umbrella phrase used for internships, job shadows, apprenticeships, independent study research projects, among other things.

No they’ll all be selling drugs on Mondays.


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elliseamos wrote:
In my area, SDL is the umbrella phrase used for internships, job shadows, apprenticeships, independent study research projects, among other things.



This district ranked #597 out of 607 Ohio school districts with 40.3% chronic absenteeism last year. It's students are not going to be doing interdependent study research projects.


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No they’ll all be selling drugs on Mondays.


I know it's painful, but there are in fact studies on this:

https://www.edweek.org/leadership/four- ... ks/2023/02

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This district ranked #597 out of 607 Ohio school districts with 40.3% chronic absenteeism last year.


So, they tried something different. Why are you so traumatized by a district of 3 schools trying something new at their schools?

I guess if they drop 10 slots, they can reinstate the 5th day.

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Wonder if this extends to mediocre to bad public schooling in general.


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