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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
PostPosted: Thu September 29, 2022 2:06 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
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My school is currently getting swatted. Police all over the hallways as we all duck and cover in the room.

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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
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4/5 wrote:
My school is currently getting swatted. Police all over the hallways as we all duck and cover in the room.

My first instinct would be to RM, also.

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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
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simple schoolboy wrote:

I don't understand. That's an article about not proctoring tests and cheating. What does that have to do with racism?

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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
PostPosted: Wed October 12, 2022 11:28 am 
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B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:

I don't understand. That's an article about not proctoring tests and cheating. What does that have to do with racism?


Explains towards the end, the assertion is that the act of not preventing cheating is done to avoid a disparate impact. More broadly it allows students to enter into classes (take out loans, pay tuition for, etc.) they are not prepared for creating a scenario where unqualified historically disadvantaged students are set up to fail as a result of 'equity'. This re-enforces the prejudiced belief that students from those groups are not good enough.

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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
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Bammer wrote:
4/5 wrote:
My school is currently getting swatted. Police all over the hallways as we all duck and cover in the room.

My first instinct would be to RM, also.

Sitting in the dark for 40 minutes with nothing else to do, yanno? It wasn't a drill. Basically somebody called in active shooter reports all over Miami-Dade and Broward County yesterday and succeeded in getting police to swarm schools and swat units brought out. It's a pretty good snapshot of education in America these days, really.

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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
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Bi_3 wrote:
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:

I don't understand. That's an article about not proctoring tests and cheating. What does that have to do with racism?


Explains towards the end, the assertion is that the act of not preventing cheating is done to avoid a disparate impact. More broadly it allows students to enter into classes (take out loans, pay tuition for, etc.) they are not prepared for creating a scenario where unqualified historically disadvantaged students are set up to fail as a result of 'equity'. This re-enforces the prejudiced belief that students from those groups are not good enough.

I think I’ve posted about this before - I was accused of being racist for using a “big word” during a phone call with a POC, meant to “confuse” her.

The nasty, hateful word in question: Objective

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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
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Bi_3 wrote:
More broadly it allows students to enter into classes (take out loans, pay tuition for, etc.) they are not prepared for creating a scenario where unqualified historically disadvantaged students are set up to fail as a result of 'equity'.

As a data driven guy, he should be taking solace in the knowledge that, if this is indeed the problem he believes it to be, then UMass will develop a devastating failure/dropout rate and there will shortly be direct, actionable evidence that this system is harmful.

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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
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4/5 wrote:
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4/5 wrote:
My school is currently getting swatted. Police all over the hallways as we all duck and cover in the room.

My first instinct would be to RM, also.

Sitting in the dark for 40 minutes with nothing else to do, yanno? It wasn't a drill. Basically somebody called in active shooter reports all over Miami-Dade and Broward County yesterday and succeeded in getting police to swarm schools and swat units brought out. It's a pretty good snapshot of education in America these days, really.

Sadly, it is. The blasé public response in the aftermath of a prank which could and has historically resulted in tragedy is a snapshot of something, as well.

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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
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McParadigm wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
More broadly it allows students to enter into classes (take out loans, pay tuition for, etc.) they are not prepared for creating a scenario where unqualified historically disadvantaged students are set up to fail as a result of 'equity'.

As a data driven guy, he should be taking solace in the knowledge that, if this is indeed the problem he believes it to be, then UMass will develop a devastating failure/dropout rate and there will shortly be direct, actionable evidence that this system is harmful.


There is little reason to think they will flunk anyone. They will simply be passed and their lack of preparedness will only become noticed when they try to enter the market. Of course, this will be only be interpreted as more actionable evidence that we need more "equity".

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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
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BurtReynolds wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
More broadly it allows students to enter into classes (take out loans, pay tuition for, etc.) they are not prepared for creating a scenario where unqualified historically disadvantaged students are set up to fail as a result of 'equity'.

As a data driven guy, he should be taking solace in the knowledge that, if this is indeed the problem he believes it to be, then UMass will develop a devastating failure/dropout rate and there will shortly be direct, actionable evidence that this system is harmful.


There is little reason to think they will flunk anyone. They will simply be passed and their lack of preparedness will only become noticed when they try to enter the market. Of course, this will be only be interpreted as more actionable evidence that we need more "equity".

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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
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Bi_3 wrote:
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:

I don't understand. That's an article about not proctoring tests and cheating. What does that have to do with racism?


Explains towards the end, the assertion is that the act of not preventing cheating is done to avoid a disparate impact. More broadly it allows students to enter into classes (take out loans, pay tuition for, etc.) they are not prepared for creating a scenario where unqualified historically disadvantaged students are set up to fail as a result of 'equity'. This re-enforces the prejudiced belief that students from those groups are not good enough.

So, allowing cheating on math exams is not a viable solution for bias in testing?

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 Post subject: Re: General Education Topik
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B wrote:
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B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:

I don't understand. That's an article about not proctoring tests and cheating. What does that have to do with racism?


Explains towards the end, the assertion is that the act of not preventing cheating is done to avoid a disparate impact. More broadly it allows students to enter into classes (take out loans, pay tuition for, etc.) they are not prepared for creating a scenario where unqualified historically disadvantaged students are set up to fail as a result of 'equity'. This re-enforces the prejudiced belief that students from those groups are not good enough.

So, allowing cheating on math exams is not a viable solution for bias in testing?


No it is not.

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Bi_3 wrote:
B wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:

I don't understand. That's an article about not proctoring tests and cheating. What does that have to do with racism?


Explains towards the end, the assertion is that the act of not preventing cheating is done to avoid a disparate impact. More broadly it allows students to enter into classes (take out loans, pay tuition for, etc.) they are not prepared for creating a scenario where unqualified historically disadvantaged students are set up to fail as a result of 'equity'. This re-enforces the prejudiced belief that students from those groups are not good enough.

So, allowing cheating on math exams is not a viable solution for bias in testing?


No it is not.

Fair.

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Did this thread just solve race/woke/education/everything else? I think it did.

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4/5 wrote:
Did this thread just solve race/woke/education/everything else? I think it did.


Sorry, we triggered the conservs.

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