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Post subject: Re: Immigrant Fights (Florida vs. Martha's Vineyard)
Posted: Sat September 17, 2022 12:58 am
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has DeSantis be charged with human trafficking yet
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Post subject: Re: Immigrant Fights (Florida vs. Martha's Vineyard)
Posted: Sat September 17, 2022 2:15 am
Looks Like a Cat
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McParadigm wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Many of them have come from a literal continent away (uninvited btw). I don't think a fucking plane ride to Martha's Vineyard is going to hurt them. Please don't try to convince me this is any more than a minor inconvenience.
They told people who had ICE meetings in a week in San Antonio that they were going to Boston. They told them that jobs and homes were waiting for them there. They let them believe that lie the entire way to a destination they fully intended to leave them at with no explanation.
Your political anger is rotting out your inner core.
Sending them on buses to liberal cities is fine with me. What you described above is not.
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Post subject: Re: Immigrant Fights (Florida vs. Martha's Vineyard)
Posted: Sat September 17, 2022 12:29 pm
Looks Like a Cat
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elliseamos wrote:
<snip out the tweet>
It's the governors, not the people of those states.
Bammer wrote:
That’s a pretty nice looking house she is set up in front of. I wonder how many spare bedrooms it has.
There are big empty houses in Florida, too. Totally irrelevant.
The people of Florida and Texas elected DeSantis and Abbott, they are the representation the majority wants.
There's two pieces of this. The exploitation and manipulation of vulnerable people, particularly people who are in legal jeopardy that they don't understand, and are at the mercy of these governors, is despicable. If what McP said posted is accurate, then this is pretty bad.
BUT, there is a reason they can get away with this. The people in those states have an outsized burden on them to care for illegal immigrants. It is incredibly disruptive and damaging for those states. You might even called it a 'disparate impact'. And for the people who have to deal with this and the impacts on public health and public safety every single day to have to sit there listen while they are called bigots and white supremacists for want to stop millions from crossing that border each year by people who have little skin in this game... I get why the Abbott and DeSantis voters would say 'fuck you, you want this you deal with it'. Here in the DC area, the mayor of DC had to call in the National Guard to support them in dealing with a couple of bus loads of folks sent from Texas. And that's in the dozens, not the hundreds of thousands. It's a perception of fairness back to the states that want to stop illegal immigration. Another side of this is that a lot of folks view that attitude, that the illegal immigrants shouldn't come to Brooklyn or DC or the Vineyard, and instead should stay in Texas and Florida, as a way for blue states to seize political power there. The 'demographics are destiny' thing and 'Hispanic minorities will turn Texas blue'. You might even say a lot of the DeSantis/Abbott crowd see the rejection of enforcing border integrity at the federal level as a great effort to replace them.
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Post subject: Re: Immigrant Fights (Florida vs. Martha's Vineyard)
Posted: Sat September 17, 2022 1:15 pm
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BurtReynolds wrote:
You know they're just gonna call you an evil racist, right?
Why? it's not Thursday.
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Post subject: Re: Immigrant Fights (Florida vs. Martha's Vineyard)
Posted: Sat September 17, 2022 2:12 pm
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Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm Posts: 14268
This was a mod create thread, I disavow all of it.
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Post subject: Re: Immigrant Fights (Florida vs. Martha's Vineyard)
Posted: Sat September 17, 2022 4:58 pm
The Master
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 4:18 am Posts: 28185
Bi_3 wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
<snip out the tweet>
It's the governors, not the people of those states.
Bammer wrote:
That’s a pretty nice looking house she is set up in front of. I wonder how many spare bedrooms it has.
There are big empty houses in Florida, too. Totally irrelevant.
The people of Florida and Texas elected DeSantis and Abbott, they are the representation the majority wants.
There's two pieces of this. The exploitation and manipulation of vulnerable people, particularly people who are in legal jeopardy that they don't understand, and are at the mercy of these governors, is despicable. If what McP said posted is accurate, then this is pretty bad.
BUT, there is a reason they can get away with this. The people in those states have an outsized burden on them to care for illegal immigrants. It is incredibly disruptive and damaging for those states. You might even called it a 'disparate impact'. And for the people who have to deal with this and the impacts on public health and public safety every single day to have to sit there listen while they are called bigots and white supremacists for want to stop millions from crossing that border each year by people who have little skin in this game... I get why the Abbott and DeSantis voters would say 'fuck you, you want this you deal with it'. Here in the DC area, the mayor of DC had to call in the National Guard to support them in dealing with a couple of bus loads of folks sent from Texas. And that's in the dozens, not the hundreds of thousands. It's a perception of fairness back to the states that want to stop illegal immigration. Another side of this is that a lot of folks view that attitude, that the illegal immigrants shouldn't come to Brooklyn or DC or the Vineyard, and instead should stay in Texas and Florida, as a way for blue states to seize political power there. The 'demographics are destiny' thing and 'Hispanic minorities will turn Texas blue'. You might even say a lot of the DeSantis/Abbott crowd see the rejection of enforcing border integrity at the federal level as a great effort to replace them.
It’s far and away the first part. We all know why De Santis is doing the other part, and it’s self serving.
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