BurtReynolds wrote:
Sounds like leaving it up to the states was a great idea!
Maybe not the best way, but the sentiment here may be right.
| Red Mosquito http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/ |
|
| 2022 Midterm Elections http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=17845 |
Page 2 of 21 |
| Author: | McParadigm [ Wed August 03, 2022 2:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2022 Midterm Elections |
tragabigzanda wrote: What’s the corollary between the KS abortion vote and red/blue results/voter turnout? I haven’t seen that kind of information yet, but given 50% turnout and the state’s 15 point conservative advantage, I’d say it couldn’t go down this way without a lot of conservatives voting against the amendment. |
|
| Author: | Monkey_Driven [ Wed August 03, 2022 2:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2022 Midterm Elections |
I'd wager to guess the majority of states that have outlawed abortion would have similar results if they put it to a popular vote. |
|
| Author: | BurtReynolds [ Wed August 03, 2022 2:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2022 Midterm Elections |
Sounds like leaving it up to the states was a great idea! |
|
| Author: | McParadigm [ Wed August 03, 2022 2:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2022 Midterm Elections |
Here’s some comparisons of county-level voting and 2020 election votes: Rural examples: Hamilton County: 81 percent Republican in 2020 56 percent for the anti-abortion position yesterday Greeley County: 85 percent R in 2020 60 percent anti-abortion yesterday Urban (Kansas City): Wyandotte County: 65 percent Dem in 2020 74 percent for abortion rights Johnson County: 53 percent D in 2020 68 percent for abortion rights That doesn’t look like one side experiencing a wave or a spike in support. That reads like only a fraction of the Republican party actually supported the effort, and they were outvoted 2:1 by basically everyone else. |
|
| Author: | McParadigm [ Wed August 03, 2022 2:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2022 Midterm Elections |
| Author: | Coach [ Wed August 03, 2022 3:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2022 Midterm Elections |
In Kansas, there was hardly a contest to speak of. The "No" coalition -- which opposed a measure that would have removed abortion rights from the state constitution -- appears to be on track to win in a landslide. And it's no low-turnout fluke. The overall vote count on the amendment eclipsed 869,000 at around 1 a.m. ET. That figure exceeded Kansas' general election turnout in the midterm year of 2010 and was approaching the 2014 total overnight. And overall primary turnout in the state two years ago -- in the midst of a presidential campaign -- clocked in at just over 636,000. In the 2018 midterm primary, the figure was lower: 457,598. Interest in the ballot measure also heavily outweighed the other big statewide contests on Tuesday -- more than doubling the total votes cast in the Republican gubernatorial primary, won by Kansas Attorney General Derek Schmidt, according to a CNN projection, with about 350,000 votes as of early Wednesday morning. Democratic turnout was even lower -- another sign that the abortion issue transcends party lines. Fewer than 250,000 voted in the party's Senate primary and only a few thousand more punched ballots for incumbent Democratic Gov. Laura Kelly, who faces an uphill battle to win a second term. https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/03/politics ... index.html |
|
| Author: | spike [ Wed August 03, 2022 3:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2022 Midterm Elections |
Monkey_Driven wrote: I'd wager to guess the majority of states that have outlawed abortion would have similar results if they put it to a popular vote. no shit |
|
| Author: | tragabigzanda [ Wed August 03, 2022 4:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2022 Midterm Elections |
thanks for the data, all. Not terribly surprising. Curious if other measures went down along more conventional party lines? |
|
| Author: | Rob [ Wed August 03, 2022 4:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2022 Midterm Elections |
BurtReynolds wrote: Sounds like leaving it up to the states was a great idea! Maybe not the best way, but the sentiment here may be right. |
|
| Author: | elliseamos [ Wed August 03, 2022 4:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2022 Midterm Elections |
Rob wrote: BurtReynolds wrote: Sounds like leaving it up to the states was a great idea! Maybe not the best way, but the sentiment here may be right. Which is to say let the people decide by majority rule? Not the politicians that get elected and then decide things however they feel? Whether it's state-level or federally, it seems like politicians more so than ever longer no longer represent the people they say they do. |
|
| Author: | BurtReynolds [ Wed August 03, 2022 4:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2022 Midterm Elections |
elliseamos wrote: Rob wrote: BurtReynolds wrote: Sounds like leaving it up to the states was a great idea! Maybe not the best way, but the sentiment here may be right. Which is to say let the people decide by majority rule? Not the politicians that get elected and then decide things however they feel? Whether it's state-level or federally, it seems like politicians more so than ever longer no longer represent the people they say they do. The difference being that state politicians' homes are within driving distance. |
|
| Author: | Coach [ Wed August 03, 2022 4:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2022 Midterm Elections |
Of course, the poor pregnant woman who can't afford out of state travel is still in a pickle, so, yeah. 
|
|
| Author: | elliseamos [ Wed August 03, 2022 4:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2022 Midterm Elections |
BurtReynolds wrote: elliseamos wrote: Rob wrote: BurtReynolds wrote: Sounds like leaving it up to the states was a great idea! Maybe not the best way, but the sentiment here may be right. Which is to say let the people decide by majority rule? Not the politicians that get elected and then decide things however they feel? Whether it's state-level or federally, it seems like politicians more so than ever longer no longer represent the people they say they do. The difference being that state politicians' homes are within driving distance. But they're still enacting laws that don't represent the majority of their state... as evidenced by this most recent abortion example. Which, for the most part, doesn't represent the majority of the country on many issues. So, like I said, once in office, many of these people are doing whatever they want/believe instead of what they're sent there to do as proxy. It's nothing new, but it's interesting to see such a blatant example. |
|
| Author: | BurtReynolds [ Wed August 03, 2022 4:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2022 Midterm Elections |
Coach wrote: Of course, the poor pregnant woman who can't afford out of state travel is still in a pickle, so, yeah. yeah all two of em. |
|
| Author: | Rob [ Wed August 03, 2022 4:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2022 Midterm Elections |
elliseamos wrote: BurtReynolds wrote: elliseamos wrote: Rob wrote: BurtReynolds wrote: Sounds like leaving it up to the states was a great idea! Maybe not the best way, but the sentiment here may be right. Which is to say let the people decide by majority rule? Not the politicians that get elected and then decide things however they feel? Whether it's state-level or federally, it seems like politicians more so than ever longer no longer represent the people they say they do. The difference being that state politicians' homes are within driving distance. But they're still enacting laws that don't represent the majority of their state... as evidenced by this most recent abortion example. Which, for the most part, doesn't represent the majority of the country on many issues. So, like I said, once in office, many of these people are doing whatever they want/believe instead of what they're sent there to do as proxy. It's nothing new, but it's interesting to see such a blatant example. I totally get this sentiment, too. And I feel for the people Coach is referencing. But the dog caught the car, and I think the car is gonna bite the dog hard. |
|
| Author: | doug rr [ Wed August 03, 2022 6:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2022 Midterm Elections |
i have to say i'm proud of kansas today..i spent 4 years there in college and never really had anything good to say about the place as a whole..well done |
|
| Author: | BurtReynolds [ Wed August 03, 2022 6:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2022 Midterm Elections |
| Author: | dad [ Wed August 03, 2022 6:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2022 Midterm Elections |
doug rr wrote: i have to say i'm proud of kansas today..i spent 4 years there in college and never really had anything good to say about the place as a whole..well done Lawrence is a cool town. |
|
| Author: | doug rr [ Wed August 03, 2022 7:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2022 Midterm Elections |
dad wrote: doug rr wrote: i have to say i'm proud of kansas today..i spent 4 years there in college and never really had anything good to say about the place as a whole..well done Lawrence is a cool town. that it is..we played KU baseball the day after their basketball championship in 88..every member of their team was hungover..it was a good time |
|
| Author: | spike [ Wed August 03, 2022 7:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2022 Midterm Elections |
BurtReynolds wrote: did you read about the text scam? |
|
| Page 2 of 21 | All times are UTC |
| Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group http://www.phpbb.com/ |
|