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 Post subject: Re: Ukraine
PostPosted: Wed June 07, 2023 12:16 pm 
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Hope they’re gonna be ok Anders. Scary scary stuff.

Good thread and read on growing insurgence within Russia.



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hoping for the best anders

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yes, hoping for the best for your family and everyone in that area, Anders.

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Jesus

Anders, so sorry

hoping for the best for them

god damn russian scum

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A friend of their son picked them up in a rowing boat, and took them to a high-rise building, where they will stay with a friend of theirs on the 15th floor. At least safe from drowning.


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Unimaginable. Abandoning your house. I'm sorry for everyone.

Good luck and maybe quick relief to one and all.


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There is no running water now, and the family they are staying with have limited supplies of food and water.


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Shooting at people fleeing a flood. Absolutely sick.


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 Post subject: Re: Ukraine
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Ukraine has lost like what, 10 percent of the M2 Bradleys donated?

What's the game plan for a negotiated end of the conflict? Ukraine and their supporters are publicly maximalist, but is there any chance Russia will agree to Feb 2022 borders with some useless assurances? Russias publicly stated goals (denazification, demilitarization) are sufficiently unclear to give them some flexibility should they chose so, but they keep going insane in their rhetoric, so it's impossible to know what they would find acceptable.

Russia will run out of poorly equiped mobiks far later than Ukraine runs out of freshly trained recruits supposedly trained in combined arms in NATO facilities.

Hopefully the Ukrainians will be successful, but if not, I don't know if anyone has reasonable plans for that eventuality.


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Putin will die eventually, and Russia will pull out.

Ukraine did not and will not agree to Feb 2022 borders, and neither it seems will Russia.


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Some reports on Ukrainian advances, but nothing confirmed.


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a tiny grain of salt in an ocean of weaponry

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simple schoolboy wrote:
Ukraine has lost like what, 10 percent of the M2 Bradleys donated?

What's the game plan for a negotiated end of the conflict? Ukraine and their supporters are publicly maximalist, but is there any chance Russia will agree to Feb 2022 borders with some useless assurances? Russias publicly stated goals (denazification, demilitarization) are sufficiently unclear to give them some flexibility should they chose so, but they keep going insane in their rhetoric, so it's impossible to know what they would find acceptable.

Russia will run out of poorly equiped mobiks far later than Ukraine runs out of freshly trained recruits supposedly trained in combined arms in NATO facilities.

Hopefully the Ukrainians will be successful, but if not, I don't know if anyone has reasonable plans for that eventuality.


it’s over when China’s economy gets bad enough and they need western capital and tell russia it’s over

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 Post subject: Re: Ukraine
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96583UP wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
Ukraine has lost like what, 10 percent of the M2 Bradleys donated?

What's the game plan for a negotiated end of the conflict? Ukraine and their supporters are publicly maximalist, but is there any chance Russia will agree to Feb 2022 borders with some useless assurances? Russias publicly stated goals (denazification, demilitarization) are sufficiently unclear to give them some flexibility should they chose so, but they keep going insane in their rhetoric, so it's impossible to know what they would find acceptable.

Russia will run out of poorly equiped mobiks far later than Ukraine runs out of freshly trained recruits supposedly trained in combined arms in NATO facilities.

Hopefully the Ukrainians will be successful, but if not, I don't know if anyone has reasonable plans for that eventuality.


it’s over when China’s economy gets bad enough and they need western capital and tell russia it’s over

But India has two air craft carriers to fuel!! Not sure about the planes though...


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Melitopol might be the main target of the offensive.


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Anybody here predictively bought into the grain market?

Ukraine is F'd.



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