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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
PostPosted: Fri June 07, 2019 11:43 am 
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To summarize, since Biden has a history of being weak on abortion, pro-business, and being creepy to women, that he should run against Trump as a Republican and then get beat by a Democrat in the general election.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
PostPosted: Fri June 07, 2019 2:59 pm 
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But I don't find any value in the idea that being somehow torn between Democrats and Republicans--especially on a national level--is somehow admirable or inherently an expression of critical thinking rather than an indication that you have not thought seriously about your political commitments.
OK, try me.

If you take my worldview, much of which many of you know of from my years of posting in this forum, you'll know that it does not come even close with aligning with either major party in the United States. It's unfortunate, but I'm also realistic enough to know that I likely will never get such an alignment. I'm also realistic enough to know that the American form of government brutally imposes a two party system, and in almost all cases voting for a third party does, at best, jack shit. So what does that leave me with? Well, the best I can manage, since I don't fully trust the agenda of either party, is to vote for gridlock, and ensure that no one party holds all the branches of power in government. That naturally leads to a lot of ticket splitting on my part. I'll let you judge for yourself as to whether that's "an expression of critical thinking", but I would like to hope that it is.


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I live in New England, where it's pretty common to have a Democratic legislature and Republican governor. People seem to like this arrangement. Republican politicians out here seem a bit more moderate on social/cultural issues compared to other places though, so I'm sure that has something to do with it.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
PostPosted: Fri June 07, 2019 3:39 pm 
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Rob wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
Mickey wrote:
But I don't find any value in the idea that being somehow torn between Democrats and Republicans--especially on a national level--is somehow admirable or inherently an expression of critical thinking rather than an indication that you have not thought seriously about your political commitments.
OK, try me.

If you take my worldview, much of which many of you know of from my years of posting in this forum, you'll know that it does not come even close with aligning with either major party in the United States. It's unfortunate, but I'm also realistic enough to know that I likely will never get such an alignment. I'm also realistic enough to know that the American form of government brutally imposes a two party system, and in almost all cases voting for a third party does, at best, jack shit. So what does that leave me with? Well, the best I can manage, since I don't fully trust the agenda of either party, is to vote for gridlock, and ensure that no one party holds all the branches of power in government. That naturally leads to a lot of ticket splitting on my part. I'll let you judge for yourself as to whether that's "an expression of critical thinking", but I would like to hope that it is.


:thumbsup:

I live in New England, where it's pretty common to have a Democratic legislature and Republican governor. People seem to like this arrangement. Republican politicians out here seem a bit more moderate on social/cultural issues compared to other places though, so I'm sure that has something to do with it.


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We have this in MD as well and it's been very effective for balancing things like expanding Medicaid coverage and reducing carbon emissions while simultaneously attracting higher quality employers.

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
PostPosted: Fri June 07, 2019 10:01 pm 
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Farmers will vote against their own economic interests as long as brown people suffer and babies get saved.

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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which is stupid because some of those brown people pick their crops!

and now I feel bad for typing that. Thanks verb.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
PostPosted: Fri June 07, 2019 10:59 pm 
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People who say shit like "they are voting against their own interests":

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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I know a lot of Farmers Burt, do you?

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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A few. They don't even rely on migrant slave laborers.

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Since it’s a topic, we recently determined that there are 1,300 acres of pasture and 500 acres of crops in my wife’s immediate family and mine, combined.

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Since it’s a topic, we recently determined that there are 1,300 acres of pasture and 500 acres of crops in my wife’s immediate family and mine, combined.

But is it part of Mars?

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Since it’s a topic, we recently determined that there are 1,300 acres of pasture and 500 acres of crops in my wife’s immediate family and mine, combined.

But is it part of Mars?

and underwater?


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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doug rr wrote:
wease wrote:
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Since it’s a topic, we recently determined that there are 1,300 acres of pasture and 500 acres of crops in my wife’s immediate family and mine, combined.

But is it part of Mars?

and underwater?

Some of it, and some of it.

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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A few. They don't even rely on migrant slave laborers.


Do they vote against their own economic interests?

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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McParadigm wrote:
doug rr wrote:
wease wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
Since it’s a topic, we recently determined that there are 1,300 acres of pasture and 500 acres of crops in my wife’s immediate family and mine, combined.

But is it part of Mars?

and underwater?

Some of it, and some of it.

Farms ain't the kind of place to raise your kids

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Simple Torture wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
doug rr wrote:
wease wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
Since it’s a topic, we recently determined that there are 1,300 acres of pasture and 500 acres of crops in my wife’s immediate family and mine, combined.

But is it part of Mars?

and underwater?

Some of it, and some of it.

Farms ain't the kind of place to raise your kids

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
PostPosted: Sun June 09, 2019 2:28 am 
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Iowa poll of Democrats:

Biden 24% (-3)
Sanders 16% (-9)
Warren 15% (+6)
Buttigieg 14% (+13)
Harris 7% (-)
O’Rourke 2% (-3)
Klobuchar 2% (-1)

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Where's Yang?

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