Thu June 25, 2020 7:30 pm
tree_ wrote:You said you didn't even watch it though. It actually is very fair and logical. It's not pandering to any group. They're professors, not "comedians". Point out an instance of "complete sarcastic mocking" and we can discuss it.B wrote:tree_ wrote:The content could be funny if it weren't mean-spirited and unfair.
That Bret and Heather video you posted is a complete sarcastic mocking of BLA, but they just do it in a monotone, so I guess it can't be mean-spirited b/c they have such dulcet, sweet tones.
Thu June 25, 2020 7:38 pm
If you're referring to the section of the video I posted, I watched that and it seemed fair to me. Do you have any specific problems with anything they said?B wrote:tree_ wrote:You said you didn't even watch it though. It actually is very fair and logical. It's not pandering to any group. They're professors, not "comedians". Point out an instance of "complete sarcastic mocking" and we can discuss it.B wrote:tree_ wrote:The content could be funny if it weren't mean-spirited and unfair.
That Bret and Heather video you posted is a complete sarcastic mocking of BLA, but they just do it in a monotone, so I guess it can't be mean-spirited b/c they have such dulcet, sweet tones.
Go watch their tear down of the signs they found around Portland.
Thu June 25, 2020 8:01 pm
tree_ wrote:If you're referring to the section of the video I posted, I watched that and it seemed fair to me. Do you have any specific problems with anything they said?B wrote:tree_ wrote:You said you didn't even watch it though. It actually is very fair and logical. It's not pandering to any group. They're professors, not "comedians". Point out an instance of "complete sarcastic mocking" and we can discuss it.B wrote:tree_ wrote:The content could be funny if it weren't mean-spirited and unfair.
That Bret and Heather video you posted is a complete sarcastic mocking of BLA, but they just do it in a monotone, so I guess it can't be mean-spirited b/c they have such dulcet, sweet tones.
Go watch their tear down of the signs they found around Portland.
Thu June 25, 2020 8:06 pm
Do you not believe all lives matter? Because to me that's a completely obvious truth. The fact that saying that is taboo is ridiculous. And they are concerned about the oppressed classes if you pay attention. I'd have to watch it again to understand the context of that quote, but I know they are very concerned with inequality but they are also concerned with the idiotic approach of this movement.B wrote:tree_ wrote:If you're referring to the section of the video I posted, I watched that and it seemed fair to me. Do you have any specific problems with anything they said?B wrote:tree_ wrote:You said you didn't even watch it though. It actually is very fair and logical. It's not pandering to any group. They're professors, not "comedians". Point out an instance of "complete sarcastic mocking" and we can discuss it.B wrote:tree_ wrote:The content could be funny if it weren't mean-spirited and unfair.
That Bret and Heather video you posted is a complete sarcastic mocking of BLA, but they just do it in a monotone, so I guess it can't be mean-spirited b/c they have such dulcet, sweet tones.
Go watch their tear down of the signs they found around Portland.
Yeah, I have a problem with their self-righteous, patronizing, mocking tone when discussing how they don't think we need to be concerned about the oppressed classes. "History was bad for black people? Yes, well, history was bad for everyone." What a fucking "All Lives Matter" pile of shit.
Thu June 25, 2020 8:09 pm
tree_ wrote:Do you not believe all lives matter? Because to me that's a completely obvious truth. The fact that saying that is taboo is ridiculous. And they are concerned about the oppressed classes if you pay attention. I'd have to watch it again to understand the context of that quote, but I know they are very concerned with inequality but they are also concerned with the idiotic approach of this movement.B wrote:tree_ wrote:If you're referring to the section of the video I posted, I watched that and it seemed fair to me. Do you have any specific problems with anything they said?B wrote:tree_ wrote:You said you didn't even watch it though. It actually is very fair and logical. It's not pandering to any group. They're professors, not "comedians". Point out an instance of "complete sarcastic mocking" and we can discuss it.B wrote:tree_ wrote:The content could be funny if it weren't mean-spirited and unfair.
That Bret and Heather video you posted is a complete sarcastic mocking of BLA, but they just do it in a monotone, so I guess it can't be mean-spirited b/c they have such dulcet, sweet tones.
Go watch their tear down of the signs they found around Portland.
Yeah, I have a problem with their self-righteous, patronizing, mocking tone when discussing how they don't think we need to be concerned about the oppressed classes. "History was bad for black people? Yes, well, history was bad for everyone." What a fucking "All Lives Matter" pile of shit.
Thu June 25, 2020 8:13 pm
tree_ wrote:Do you not believe all lives matter? Because to me that's a completely obvious truth. The fact that saying that is taboo is ridiculous. And they are concerned about the oppressed classes if you pay attention. I'd have to watch it again to understand the context of that quote, but I know they are very concerned with inequality but they are also concerned with the idiotic approach of this movement.B wrote:tree_ wrote:If you're referring to the section of the video I posted, I watched that and it seemed fair to me. Do you have any specific problems with anything they said?B wrote:tree_ wrote:You said you didn't even watch it though. It actually is very fair and logical. It's not pandering to any group. They're professors, not "comedians". Point out an instance of "complete sarcastic mocking" and we can discuss it.B wrote:tree_ wrote:The content could be funny if it weren't mean-spirited and unfair.
That Bret and Heather video you posted is a complete sarcastic mocking of BLA, but they just do it in a monotone, so I guess it can't be mean-spirited b/c they have such dulcet, sweet tones.
Go watch their tear down of the signs they found around Portland.
Yeah, I have a problem with their self-righteous, patronizing, mocking tone when discussing how they don't think we need to be concerned about the oppressed classes. "History was bad for black people? Yes, well, history was bad for everyone." What a fucking "All Lives Matter" pile of shit.
Thu June 25, 2020 8:24 pm
Thu June 25, 2020 8:48 pm
tree_ wrote:I'm not trying to "come back" to "black lives matter". I just think it's silly that saying all lives matter is taboo. Literally it is true that all lives matter. I see how in the right context it could be taken as insulting or offensive. Context matters.
Thu June 25, 2020 8:52 pm
You didn't even watch the video. They're not arguing that history was equally hard on everybody. They were talking about some dumb flyer. I'm not, they're not disagreeing that groups of people have it more difficult than others. This is stupid.durdencommatyler wrote:tree_ wrote:I'm not trying to "come back" to "black lives matter". I just think it's silly that saying all lives matter is taboo. Literally it is true that all lives matter. I see how in the right context it could be taken as insulting or offensive. Context matters.
Saying all lives matter isn't taboo. It's shitty in the context of the moment -- as a response to oppressed and marginalized peoples. In this context, saying "history was hard on everyone" is the same as "all lives matter." It's dismissive, ignorant, and racist/ableist/transphobic/etc., because it asserts supremacy and tries to further marginalize those who are more oppressed and aren't privileged enough to have the perspective that "history was hard on everyone." Because it was especially hard on them. Again, your house isn't the one on fire. And make no mistake, their house IS STILL ON FIRE. Those in YouTube videos like the one you posted can say "history WAS bad for everyone" but for a lot of people (Black, Brown, Trans, etc) history is still happening right the fuck now.
But since you just said you agree with that, I'm not sure what you're arguing.
Thu June 25, 2020 10:00 pm
Thu June 25, 2020 11:09 pm
tree_ wrote:You didn't even watch the video. They're not arguing that history was equally hard on everybody. They were talking about some dumb flyer. I'm not, they're not disagreeing that groups of people have it more difficult than others. This is stupid.durdencommatyler wrote:tree_ wrote:I'm not trying to "come back" to "black lives matter". I just think it's silly that saying all lives matter is taboo. Literally it is true that all lives matter. I see how in the right context it could be taken as insulting or offensive. Context matters.
Saying all lives matter isn't taboo. It's shitty in the context of the moment -- as a response to oppressed and marginalized peoples. In this context, saying "history was hard on everyone" is the same as "all lives matter." It's dismissive, ignorant, and racist/ableist/transphobic/etc., because it asserts supremacy and tries to further marginalize those who are more oppressed and aren't privileged enough to have the perspective that "history was hard on everyone." Because it was especially hard on them. Again, your house isn't the one on fire. And make no mistake, their house IS STILL ON FIRE. Those in YouTube videos like the one you posted can say "history WAS bad for everyone" but for a lot of people (Black, Brown, Trans, etc) history is still happening right the fuck now.
But since you just said you agree with that, I'm not sure what you're arguing.
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Strat wrote:does tree hate transgenders too?
Sun June 28, 2020 6:33 am
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PHATJ wrote:Some of you guys are such insufferable, arrogant, assholes.
tree_, you’re a good guy.
Sun June 28, 2020 3:04 pm
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