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Another study, published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, agreed, saying, "receipt of gender-affirming care, including puberty blockers and gender-affirming hormones, was associated with 60% lower odds of moderate or severe depression and 73% lower odds of suicidality over a 12-month follow-up."
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According to the National Center for Transgender Equality’s 2015 U.S. Transgender Survey, only 3% of respondents have detransitioned permanently at some point.
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Activism over science is very on brand. There are a shocking number of outright lies in that link:
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Transgender children are not undergoing irreversible medical changes.
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Hormone therapy and surgical care are not offered to young people, but reserved for those who can give truly informed consent.
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Transgender children do not undergo gender-affirming surgeries, but may receive fully reversible medications that put puberty on hold
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Bi_3 wrote:
Activism over science is very on brand. There are a shocking number of outright lies in that link:
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Transgender children are not undergoing irreversible medical changes.
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Hormone therapy and surgical care are not offered to young people, but reserved for those who can give truly informed consent.
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Transgender children do not undergo gender-affirming surgeries, but may receive fully reversible medications that put puberty on hold
I can't speak for all hospitals, but this is what Boston Children's was offering when your friends at Libs of TikTok went after them. It aligns with those statements.
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The types of gender-affirming care that Children’s offers ranges from simple interventions such as allowing patients to use preferred names and pronouns in their medical records, to counseling, hormonal therapy to delay puberty or transition to a different gender. For patients 15 and older, breast surgery is an option, as is genital surgery for those 18 and older.
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Activism over science is very on brand. There are a shocking number of outright lies in that link:
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Transgender children are not undergoing irreversible medical changes.
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Hormone therapy and surgical care are not offered to young people, but reserved for those who can give truly informed consent.
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Transgender children do not undergo gender-affirming surgeries, but may receive fully reversible medications that put puberty on hold
I can't speak for all hospitals, but this is what Boston Children's was offering when your friends at Libs of TikTok went after them. It aligns with those statements.
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The types of gender-affirming care that Children’s offers ranges from simple interventions such as allowing patients to use preferred names and pronouns in their medical records, to counseling, hormonal therapy to delay puberty or transition to a different gender. For patients 15 and older, breast surgery is an option, as is genital surgery for those 18 and older.
This is kinda fascinating... to me that statement from the hospital directly contradicts what the HRC link says are 'facts' about affirming care but you read it as the opposite. Like a '2 + 2 = 5' moment. Gonna be hard for society to reconcile things if we cannot agree on what meaning simple sentences convey and might be at the root of a lot of the broader issues on this topic.
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Bi_3 wrote:
Gonna be hard for society to reconcile things if we cannot agree on what meaning simple sentences convey and might be at the root of a lot of the broader issues on this topic.
Transgendered individuals are not required to secure your understanding before they ask their doctor for gender affirming care.
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Bi_3 wrote:
Gonna be hard for society to reconcile things if we cannot agree on what meaning simple sentences convey and might be at the root of a lot of the broader issues on this topic.
Transgendered individuals are not required to secure your understanding before they ask their doctor for gender affirming care.
The hyperbole is ridiculous. Defining words clearly is not bigotry.
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Edit: Let me explain this further before anyone accuses me of religiously motivated bigotry.
Scholar Alyssa Roat writes:
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The ancient historian Josephus states of Nimrod, ‘He also said he would be revenged on God if he should have a mind to drown the world again; for that he would build a tower too high for the waters to be able to reach and that he would avenge himself on God for destroying their forefathers (Antiquities of the Jews, Book 1, Chapter 4).
God saw that the people were working together toward a common goal. But unfortunately, the goal they were working toward was steeped in arrogance and in direct opposition to God’s command to multiply and “fill the earth” (Genesis 9:1).
In their attempt to maintain unity and create a name for themselves, God’s people rebelled against God’s sovereign authority and embraced their own self-sufficiency. They felt they didn’t need God to rule over them—they could rule themselves and reach the heavens on their own terms, with their own hands, by their own means.
God’s justice and His grace could not allow this treachery to continue. So the Lord scattered them from there over all the earth, and they stopped building the city. That is why it was called Babel—because there the Lord confused the language of the whole world.
The takeaway is not that we should always obey and be fruitful and multiply as Christian dogmatists might say, but more subversive in that authority will use the dissolution of common understanding to eliminate threats to it's power.
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no
I mean, I guess it might have to do with what the person said they feel about the clip, or even what the clip entails, and how it relates to the conversation in the thread.. but that may take too much discerning and stuff
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