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 Post subject: Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
PostPosted: Tue April 25, 2023 11:59 am 
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we really need someone else from the dem side of things

i would love raskin running but there isnt a chance of the happening

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 Post subject: Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
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I think if a serious contender gained traction, they'd have to debate, but I don't see it happening these days, especially with an ultra cautious DNC.

I don't see anyone making a serious run at it.

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 Post subject: Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
PostPosted: Tue April 25, 2023 7:47 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
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 Post subject: Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
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I'll be generous and assume this just means the passenger vehicle fleet (for recruiters and travel and whatnot). This is still a pretty crazy timeline. They wouldn't go with Tesla seeing as they're non union, but does anyone else other than the Koreans have battery production capacity to make this happen?


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 Post subject: Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
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I wonder how the broke, underfunded US military could possibly help.


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 Post subject: Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
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simple schoolboy wrote:


I'll be generous and assume this just means the passenger vehicle fleet (for recruiters and travel and whatnot). This is still a pretty crazy timeline. They wouldn't go with Tesla seeing as they're non union, but does anyone else other than the Koreans have battery production capacity to make this happen?

I don’t see production capacity as an issue: if there are contracts in place to fill the orders, then the capacity logistics will get sorted out. I think the limiting factor is downstream lithium sourcing and processing, which is largely reliant on China. The “lithium triangle” around Bolivia could maybe ramp up processing with US support?


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 Post subject: Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
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I wonder how the broke, underfunded US military could possibly help.


Replacing (mostly domestically sourced) petroleum with (almost entirely foreign sourced) battery cells does not in fact make the military more resistant to supply chain disruptions.

There's no large scale initiatives to start mining the raw materials domestically so what are we doing?


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 Post subject: Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
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simple schoolboy wrote:


I'll be generous and assume this just means the passenger vehicle fleet (for recruiters and travel and whatnot). This is still a pretty crazy timeline. They wouldn't go with Tesla seeing as they're non union, but does anyone else other than the Koreans have battery production capacity to make this happen?


we def don't need this kind of clown show bullshit out there misleading the public about the limits of EVs

meaning

there are current limits

and this kind of crap implies there are not limits

there are limits right now

they cannot do the same things as high power combustible engines

for military craft

or industry

i am all for green energy, development, and subsidy

but not greenwashing

not propaganda

not inflated expectations

i would rather the ice caps melt and we are able to prevent vladimir putin from raping every ukrainian woman than save a few polar bears and see his seed multiply across the grainfields of ukraine

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 Post subject: Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
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and yes china owns the supply chain so point is moot

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 Post subject: Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
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What was the timeline for the contract review for the Dodge Status fleet in the late 90s/ early 2000s? That was for an extant product with a mature supply chain. We going to do that for EVs in the next 6 1/2 years?


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 Post subject: Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
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It's not just the battery production, EVs are heavy, have modular engines, and have short range relative to gas engines. They need charging infrastructure. Storage infrastructure. They need retrained mechanics and new tooling at maintenance centers. Plus the parts. Seems like the military should be the last to get them.

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 Post subject: Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
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Whoa whoa whoa numbersup, who said anything about raping polar bears


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 Post subject: Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
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 Post subject: Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
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96583UP wrote:

i would rather the ice caps melt and we are able to prevent vladimir putin from raping every ukrainian woman than save a few polar bears and see his seed multiply across the grainfields of ukraine

I don't think we're using our military vehicles to prevent Vladimir Putin from raping every Ukrainian woman.

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 Post subject: Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
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96583UP wrote:

i would rather the ice caps melt and we are able to prevent vladimir putin from raping every ukrainian woman than save a few polar bears and see his seed multiply across the grainfields of ukraine

I don't think we're using our military vehicles to prevent Vladimir Putin from raping every Ukrainian woman.


you clearly didn’t read the recent NYTimes article on the Minecraft data leak

this is basically the primary utility of the HIMARS system

we use satellites to track putin’s weiner and then Ukrainian field personnel call the US to confirm coordinates before launching deterrence strikes

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96583UP wrote:
we use satellites to track putin’s weiner

Typical US intelligence: spending hundreds of millions and collecting no hard data

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McParadigm wrote:
96583UP wrote:
we use satellites to track putin’s weiner

Typical US intelligence: spending hundreds of millions and collecting no hard data


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 Post subject: Re: The 46th POTUS - Joseph R. Biden, Jr.
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Whole thing in one spot:
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