Tue April 06, 2021 11:20 pm
BurtReynolds wrote:Liberal derision of "the culture war" is pretty funny considering they spend every waking moment fighting in it (but when they do it, it's called "social JUSTICE"). They just downplay it because they're winning and don't need attention brought to it. But even for the few who genuinely regard it as unimportant, people who put more weight on how much stuff they can get than the survival of their culture and community are just fundamentally different people than the ones who value the reverse.
Tue April 06, 2021 11:30 pm
Tue April 06, 2021 11:52 pm
Tue April 06, 2021 11:54 pm
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Wed April 07, 2021 12:19 am
Mickey wrote:Trag what happened in 2016.
Wed April 07, 2021 2:19 am
McParadigm wrote:Mickey wrote:Trag what happened in 2016.
Ok but what happened the two election after that?
Mickey wrote:Will it work again in the absence of a global pandemic overseen by a grossly incompetent media dipshit? Maybe! And you can bet your ass they're going to try it!
Fri April 09, 2021 4:27 pm
Mon April 12, 2021 1:22 pm
Mon April 12, 2021 1:37 pm
Bi_3 wrote:Mapping of 2020 election if it was only under-45s voting:
Mon April 12, 2021 5:35 pm
Mon April 12, 2021 5:36 pm
Mon April 12, 2021 7:25 pm
Mickey wrote:Generational thinking is mystical thinking.
Mon April 12, 2021 7:27 pm
McParadigm wrote:Mickey wrote:Generational thinking is mystical thinking.
In some ways I agree. But the majority of people vote more or less the same way at 65 that they did at 30, and the cultural and social issue stagnation of the Republican Party that has lasted for decades will make it really hard to correct course in a way that closes such a profound worldview gap.
Mon April 12, 2021 7:28 pm
Mon April 12, 2021 7:33 pm
McParadigm wrote:Mickey wrote:Generational thinking is mystical thinking.
In some ways I agree. But the majority of people vote more or less the same way at 65 that they did at 30, and the cultural and social issue stagnation of the Republican Party that has lasted for decades will make it really hard to correct course in a way that closes such a profound worldview gap.
Mon April 12, 2021 8:10 pm
Mickey wrote:McParadigm wrote:Mickey wrote:Generational thinking is mystical thinking.
In some ways I agree. But the majority of people vote more or less the same way at 65 that they did at 30, and the cultural and social issue stagnation of the Republican Party that has lasted for decades will make it really hard to correct course in a way that closes such a profound worldview gap.
I would simply reiterate that generational thinking is mystical thinking. The majority of people in the past two to three generations voted the same way at 65 as they did at 30. The last two or three generations faced a very different American reality with regards to the movement of global capital than the current one does. So while I think "fuck trans people" turns a TON of young voters off of the GOP, and that more generally the right makes their bargain with Evangelicals and traditionalists at the expense of a (mostly reactionary) youth vote, the Democrats and the broader left should be incredibly careful about assuming the youth vote is theirs, or that things will continue apace.
Mon April 12, 2021 9:32 pm
McParadigm wrote:Mickey wrote:McParadigm wrote:Mickey wrote:Generational thinking is mystical thinking.
In some ways I agree. But the majority of people vote more or less the same way at 65 that they did at 30, and the cultural and social issue stagnation of the Republican Party that has lasted for decades will make it really hard to correct course in a way that closes such a profound worldview gap.
I would simply reiterate that generational thinking is mystical thinking. The majority of people in the past two to three generations voted the same way at 65 as they did at 30. The last two or three generations faced a very different American reality with regards to the movement of global capital than the current one does. So while I think "fuck trans people" turns a TON of young voters off of the GOP, and that more generally the right makes their bargain with Evangelicals and traditionalists at the expense of a (mostly reactionary) youth vote, the Democrats and the broader left should be incredibly careful about assuming the youth vote is theirs, or that things will continue apace.
I don't disagree with any of that. But I will also admit that it's hard for me to imagine a bunch of the 2020 youth vote buying into a rehabbed GOP in an era of climate change (not that the only alternative is they all become Democrats).
Tue April 13, 2021 1:50 am
Tue April 13, 2021 2:06 am
spike wrote:just a couple old guys deciding how the youth will vote