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 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
PostPosted: Tue April 27, 2021 3:19 pm 
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Yeah that’s basically where I was headed with my question


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 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
PostPosted: Tue April 27, 2021 3:22 pm 
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Marco Rubio continues

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America’s laws should keep our nation’s corporations firmly ordered to our national common good.

But laws shouldn't keep citizens firmly ordered to our national common good? So corps. are not people?



There was a study a few years ago... I’ll try to find it... that talked about corporations supporting national interests and the US was dead last in major economies. Upon reflection, it’s not that bad a place to draw a cut out for the GOP if they want to keep blue collar workers and still fight the woke wars

“Whenever a company’s internal or external culture runs counter to mine, that company shall be deemed a threat to the national interest and the power of the state wielded against them” would, I suppose, be the most comfortable way for conservatism to reconcile recent authoritarian urges with its general anti-regulation philosophies.

It has a very “look what you made me do” kind of energy.

I think the anti-regulation rhetoric has been far more political than philosophical for decades. All that's really happening now is that Republican rhetoric is coming closer to matching their actions, so this is a pretty easy transition to make for a lot of them.

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 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
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Not seeing much on RM re: the census results/congressional reapportionment news. Apart from MT (which has a bipartisan redistributing commission), I don’t know enough about the other states that are gaining seats — Texas, Florida, Colorado, Oregon and North Carolina — to have any opinion on the net D/R results in 2022...

But I look at that list and immediately think that for the next decade the GOP platform will be based on 2A, immigration, and deregulation/corporate tax breaks. No big surprises there, but I’m hoping that the relative secularism of those states will at least see some distancing between the GOP and the evangelical set.


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 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
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Of course Florida and Texas don’t really make this work… I don’t know what I’m talking about. Any other thoughts on how this might check out?


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 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
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I think corporate tax breaks have kind of vanished from their rhetoric, and I don't see it coming back, especially now that they see corporations as woke. Going to be another 4 years of mostly culture war on the right, I think. I agree with 2A & immigration being issues.


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 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
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The dereg is a winning issue here in MT, so I’m assuming that will continue to pull weight in OR, TX, and CO, where I’m assuming there’s still a big appetite for biz dev’t


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 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
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This guy might be something:

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/2 ... gop-484807

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 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
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We need to balance our budget as a community. We should be focused on the environment. We need to solve immigration as an economic issue. We need to look at the environment as a national security issue and not just look at it as a causation issue. And there's no reason why Republicans should cede ground on those two incredibly important issues.
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That’s a rhetorical shift I’d enjoy seeing in the party

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We need to balance our budget as a community. We should be focused on the environment. We need to solve immigration as an economic issue. We need to look at the environment as a national security issue and not just look at it as a causation issue. And there's no reason why Republicans should cede ground on those two incredibly important issues.
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Thinking economically, Mexico will pay for the wall!
Thinking about the environment in relation to security means we should nuke hurricanes!


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I assume Liz Cheney will shortly be consequenced for continuing to admit this basic truth.

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McParadigm wrote:
I assume Liz Cheney will shortly be consequenced for continuing to admit this basic truth.

Oh OK, Karen...


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 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
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I assume Liz Cheney will shortly be consequenced for continuing to admit this basic truth.


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 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
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McParadigm wrote:
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I assume Liz Cheney will shortly be consequenced for continuing to admit this basic truth.



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 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
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Liz Cheney has been toast since right after her reelection.

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Liz Cheney has been toast since right after her reelection.

And the GOP has been toast since 2016, so really she’s just getting out while the getting is good.


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so republicans really are socialists at heart huh

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Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp has signed a bill into law allowing college athletes in the state to make endorsement money starting on July 1

The new law also allows schools to take up to 75% of an athlete’s endorsement income and redistribute to other athletes

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 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
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I hate that the most reasonable republicans are a Mormon and the Daughter of Dick "war criminal" Cheney.

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I hate that the most reasonable republicans are a Mormon and the Daughter of Dick "war criminal" Cheney.

Maybe one should rethink their positions if they suddenly find themselves nodding along to war criminals and their devil spawn.

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BurtReynolds wrote:
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I hate that the most reasonable republicans are a Mormon and the Daughter of Dick "war criminal" Cheney.

Maybe one should rethink their positions if they suddenly find themselves nodding along to war criminals and their devil spawn.


Oh I don't agree with a word they say,but if I was presented with the option of throwing Ted Cruz or Liz Cheney into a volcano I'd choose Ted Cruz 100%

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