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Peeps wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
So ted banged Bobert?
The same group that leaked the Cawthorn videos claims they have evidence of this, that when she tried modelling and booth-babe type stuff while she was struggling financially, it led to some "Sugar Daddy" work with Cruz via the Koch brothers. Seems a bit convenient, and I'm not sure slut-shaming a woman forced into sex work by failure of the welfare state is a good look in the 21st century, but here we are.
But can we please slut shame Ted Cruz?
had to do it from behind. there is no way any woman wants to chance even a glimpse of his sex face
So instead of him being Lyin’ Ted he’s actually Lyin’ Ted
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McParadigm wrote:
Current Republican candidates for 2022 who have embraced the claim that the 2020 election was stolen (red), vs those who say it was not (yellow). Treat pink as “neutral.”
Democracy is doomed in this country. It’s just a question of how soon at this point.
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And the Democrats said the previous election was stolen. This is just the new normal. Neither side is going to admit defeat anymore.
"Selected Not Elected" was in the before times. But...
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Stop being mad at Republicans for marketing a false-yet-legally-protected narrative that advances their agenda. Start being mad at Democrats who can’t market any effective messages in what should be competitive districts.
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Democrats didn’t grift and build a movement on “the stolen election” though. Hillary 2016 (Bernie 16 and 20) conceded as soon as they lost and dropped it. Let’s not pretend what Trump did (and is doing) is equivocal.
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tragabigzanda wrote:
Stop being mad at Republicans for marketing a false-yet-legally-protected narrative that advances their agenda. Start being mad at Democrats who can’t market any effective messages in what should be competitive districts.
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Consider that loss aversion is generally a more powerful incentive than a potential gain.
The GOP has so effectively articulated the narrative that their voters will lose their freedoms, their liberties, their very way of life, if they don't protect the ballot box with their guns.
The dems seem to want to combat that with a narrative around a loss of democracy, of political norms. But that's such a squishy concept because it is individually defined, and the tangibles are much harder to visualize.
As for abortion, the potential loss of women's agency doesn't outweigh the potential loss of human life for many voters. And on the environment, the losses are starting to reveal themselves, but the worst is still in the pipeline.
And the economy, the markets, and voters' wallets, are in free fall, voters just losing, losing, losing...
Dems losing so hard on everything. And trying to communicate the most pitiful messages around "women's rights!" and "make your city affordable again!" Honestly, the best strategy might be to take the short-term Ls, let the newly empowered GOP create some losses of their own, and then regroup around a new message for 2024 (or later).
Honestly, the best strategy might be to take the short-term Ls, let the newly empowered GOP create some losses of their own, and then regroup around a new message for 2024 (or later).
It's certainly possible to gamble that a GOP takeover this fall will coincide with a recession and voters will blame them, but I'm not sure how that helps.
And events like this are gonna be a lot more common going forward:
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Bi_3 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Honestly, the best strategy might be to take the short-term Ls, let the newly empowered GOP create some losses of their own, and then regroup around a new message for 2024 (or later).
It's certainly possible to gamble that a GOP takeover this fall will coincide with a recession and voters will blame them, but I'm not sure how that helps.
And events like this are gonna be a lot more common going forward:
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Rob wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Honestly, the best strategy might be to take the short-term Ls, let the newly empowered GOP create some losses of their own, and then regroup around a new message for 2024 (or later).
It's certainly possible to gamble that a GOP takeover this fall will coincide with a recession and voters will blame them, but I'm not sure how that helps.
And events like this are gonna be a lot more common going forward:
Joe Biden will be President, so… I don’t think it’s possible Dems get blamed for a recession.
Yes, correct. Also the GOP are winning the presidency in 2024--that was decided in 2020 when Biden won the primary, and any Dem strategy needs to take that as its starting point.
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its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
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Bi_3 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Honestly, the best strategy might be to take the short-term Ls, let the newly empowered GOP create some losses of their own, and then regroup around a new message for 2024 (or later).
It's certainly possible to gamble that a GOP takeover this fall will coincide with a recessionand voters will blame them, but I'm not sure how that helps.
And events like this are gonna be a lot more common going forward:
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Mickey wrote:
Rob wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Honestly, the best strategy might be to take the short-term Ls, let the newly empowered GOP create some losses of their own, and then regroup around a new message for 2024 (or later).
It's certainly possible to gamble that a GOP takeover this fall will coincide with a recession and voters will blame them, but I'm not sure how that helps.
And events like this are gonna be a lot more common going forward:
Joe Biden will be President, so… I don’t think it’s possible Dems get blamed for a recession.
Yes, correct. Also the GOP are winning the presidency in 2024--that was decided in 2020 when Biden won the primary, and any Dem strategy needs to take that as its starting point.
I actually missed a word there, no way Dems don’t get blamed.
Honestly, the best strategy might be to take the short-term Ls, let the newly empowered GOP create some losses of their own, and then regroup around a new message for 2024 (or later).
It's certainly possible to gamble that a GOP takeover this fall will coincide with a recessionand voters will blame them, but I'm not sure how that helps.
And events like this are gonna be a lot more common going forward:
What gamble? It’s a foregone conclusion that the Dems will gets trounced, and a recession is a near-certainty
Sorry, should have been more clear. The gamble being that voters might blame the red team if the two events occur in close temporal proximity. They won't given the persistent lie that only blue teamers haphazardly spend trillions of unfunded buckeroos. But they might.
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Yeah I guess I don’t see any chance of Republicans inheriting a recession in the minds of the voter. But with an influx of far-right “no social services for anyone” types, I think the general state of things could be enough to change some minds (via widespread upticks in drug use, depression, crime, plus shitty roads and transit). The biggest flaw in the GOP playbook right now is that all their policies will make life miserable for a lot of people, but that would have to play out in real time.
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tragabigzanda wrote:
Yeah I guess I don’t see any chance of Republicans inheriting a recession in the minds of the voter. But with an influx of far-right “no social services for anyone” types, I think the general state of things could be enough to change some minds (via widespread upticks in drug use, depression, crime, plus shitty roads and transit). The biggest flaw in the GOP playbook right now is that all their policies will make life miserable for a lot of people, but that would have to play out in real time.
But those very people worship the GOP. That’s their hardcore base. Look at Trump. Look at fucking Mitch McConnell.
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tragabigzanda wrote:
Captain Termite wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
Captain Termite wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
Met a dude from New Hampshire. Thought his accent was Southie adjacent. What's going on with New England accents? Is he a transplant? Are there pockets of Irishmen with South Boston accents all over the place?
There’s no such thing as a South Boston accent.
Help a non-local out. Is there a generic New England accent that varies in intensity without obvious geographical trends?
There is the generic accent that you find in Eastern New England (excluding most of Maine), which can fairly be called the Boston accent. It does vary based on geographic trends, but not so much that different parts of the city itself have different versions of the accent.
People in South Boston have been associated with the accent. Although I suspect the increase in young professionals living in Southie has changed things.
South Shore accent is different than a North Shore accent. And a Maine accent is its own animal. But no, Southie is not it's own thing.
Eh, the South Shore Accent is pretty much the Southie/DOT transplant accent so it kind of is a thing.
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