The board's server will undergo upgrade maintenance tonight, Nov 5, 2014, beginning approximately around 10 PM ET. Prepare for some possible down time during this process.
FAQ    Search

Board index » Word on the Street » News & Debate




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 903 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 ... 46  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
PostPosted: Tue April 06, 2021 11:20 pm 
Offline
User avatar
The Master
 Profile

Joined: Tue September 24, 2013 5:56 pm
Posts: 46357
Location: In the oatmeal aisle wearing a Shellac shirt
BurtReynolds wrote:
Liberal derision of "the culture war" is pretty funny considering they spend every waking moment fighting in it (but when they do it, it's called "social JUSTICE"). They just downplay it because they're winning and don't need attention brought to it. But even for the few who genuinely regard it as unimportant, people who put more weight on how much stuff they can get than the survival of their culture and community are just fundamentally different people than the ones who value the reverse.

are you suggesting that demonstrating for sentencing equity for black people on charges of marijuana possession is basically the same as saying Gina Carano should be able to say whatever she wants and still cradle the baby yoda?


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
PostPosted: Tue April 06, 2021 11:30 pm 
Offline
User avatar
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
 Profile

Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:13 pm
Posts: 39526
Location: 6000 feet beyond man and time.
Image

_________________
RM's resident disinformation expert.

“And truly, if life had no purpose, and I had to choose nonsense, this would be the most desirable nonsense for me as well."


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
PostPosted: Tue April 06, 2021 11:52 pm 
Offline
User avatar
The Master
 Profile

Joined: Tue September 24, 2013 5:56 pm
Posts: 46357
Location: In the oatmeal aisle wearing a Shellac shirt
Cooool, just checking


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
PostPosted: Tue April 06, 2021 11:54 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Mind Your Tanners
 Profile

Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 6:02 am
Posts: 9712
Location: Tristes Tropiques

_________________
VinylGuy wrote:
its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
PostPosted: Tue April 06, 2021 11:56 pm 
Offline
User avatar
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
 Profile

Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:13 pm
Posts: 39526
Location: 6000 feet beyond man and time.
In case anyone is wondering, I'm not taking trag's dumb comparison seriously.

_________________
RM's resident disinformation expert.

“And truly, if life had no purpose, and I had to choose nonsense, this would be the most desirable nonsense for me as well."


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
PostPosted: Wed April 07, 2021 12:19 am 
Offline
User avatar
NEVER STOP JAMMING!
 Profile

Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 1:56 am
Posts: 21740
Mickey wrote:
Trag what happened in 2016.

Ok but what happened the two election after that?

_________________
(patriotic choking noises)


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
PostPosted: Wed April 07, 2021 2:19 am 
Offline
User avatar
Mind Your Tanners
 Profile

Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 6:02 am
Posts: 9712
Location: Tristes Tropiques
McParadigm wrote:
Mickey wrote:
Trag what happened in 2016.

Ok but what happened the two election after that?


Mickey wrote:
Will it work again in the absence of a global pandemic overseen by a grossly incompetent media dipshit? Maybe! And you can bet your ass they're going to try it!

_________________
VinylGuy wrote:
its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
PostPosted: Fri April 09, 2021 4:27 pm 
Offline
User avatar
TIER 1 Essential Critical Infrastructure Worker
 Profile

Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 9:08 pm
Posts: 4729
Location: 5th floor, Bay 7, position 5740
Don Jr & Eric are always popping up on the conservative channels talking about Hunter Biden without a hint of irony.
Granted that Hunter is a mess but like Don Jr and Eric wouldn’t be where they are without their last name.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
PostPosted: Mon April 12, 2021 1:22 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Looks Like a Cat
 Profile

Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm
Posts: 14138
Mapping of 2020 election if it was only under-45s voting:

Image

_________________
"The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don't have a f**king clue about how to build anything."


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
PostPosted: Mon April 12, 2021 1:37 pm 
Offline
User avatar
The Master
 Profile

Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 4:18 am
Posts: 27936
Bi_3 wrote:
Mapping of 2020 election if it was only under-45s voting:

Image

Image


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
PostPosted: Mon April 12, 2021 5:35 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Mind Your Tanners
 Profile

Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 6:02 am
Posts: 9712
Location: Tristes Tropiques
Generational thinking is mystical thinking.

_________________
VinylGuy wrote:
its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
PostPosted: Mon April 12, 2021 5:36 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Mind Your Tanners
 Profile

Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 6:02 am
Posts: 9712
Location: Tristes Tropiques
Image

_________________
VinylGuy wrote:
its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
PostPosted: Mon April 12, 2021 7:25 pm 
Offline
User avatar
NEVER STOP JAMMING!
 Profile

Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 1:56 am
Posts: 21740
Mickey wrote:
Generational thinking is mystical thinking.

In some ways I agree. But the majority of people vote more or less the same way at 65 that they did at 30, and the cultural and social issue stagnation of the Republican Party that has lasted for decades will make it really hard to correct course in a way that closes such a profound worldview gap.

_________________
(patriotic choking noises)


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
PostPosted: Mon April 12, 2021 7:27 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Looks Like a Cat
 Profile

Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm
Posts: 14138
McParadigm wrote:
Mickey wrote:
Generational thinking is mystical thinking.

In some ways I agree. But the majority of people vote more or less the same way at 65 that they did at 30, and the cultural and social issue stagnation of the Republican Party that has lasted for decades will make it really hard to correct course in a way that closes such a profound worldview gap.


100% this.

_________________
"The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don't have a f**king clue about how to build anything."


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
PostPosted: Mon April 12, 2021 7:28 pm 
Offline
User avatar
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
 Profile

Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:13 pm
Posts: 39526
Location: 6000 feet beyond man and time.
We'll see!

_________________
RM's resident disinformation expert.

“And truly, if life had no purpose, and I had to choose nonsense, this would be the most desirable nonsense for me as well."


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
PostPosted: Mon April 12, 2021 7:33 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Mind Your Tanners
 Profile

Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 6:02 am
Posts: 9712
Location: Tristes Tropiques
McParadigm wrote:
Mickey wrote:
Generational thinking is mystical thinking.

In some ways I agree. But the majority of people vote more or less the same way at 65 that they did at 30, and the cultural and social issue stagnation of the Republican Party that has lasted for decades will make it really hard to correct course in a way that closes such a profound worldview gap.


I would simply reiterate that generational thinking is mystical thinking. The majority of people in the past two to three generations voted the same way at 65 as they did at 30. The last two or three generations faced a very different American reality with regards to the movement of global capital than the current one does. So while I think "fuck trans people" turns a TON of young voters off of the GOP, and that more generally the right makes their bargain with Evangelicals and traditionalists at the expense of a (mostly reactionary) youth vote, the Democrats and the broader left should be incredibly careful about assuming the youth vote is theirs, or that things will continue apace.

_________________
VinylGuy wrote:
its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
PostPosted: Mon April 12, 2021 8:10 pm 
Offline
User avatar
NEVER STOP JAMMING!
 Profile

Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 1:56 am
Posts: 21740
Mickey wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
Mickey wrote:
Generational thinking is mystical thinking.

In some ways I agree. But the majority of people vote more or less the same way at 65 that they did at 30, and the cultural and social issue stagnation of the Republican Party that has lasted for decades will make it really hard to correct course in a way that closes such a profound worldview gap.


I would simply reiterate that generational thinking is mystical thinking. The majority of people in the past two to three generations voted the same way at 65 as they did at 30. The last two or three generations faced a very different American reality with regards to the movement of global capital than the current one does. So while I think "fuck trans people" turns a TON of young voters off of the GOP, and that more generally the right makes their bargain with Evangelicals and traditionalists at the expense of a (mostly reactionary) youth vote, the Democrats and the broader left should be incredibly careful about assuming the youth vote is theirs, or that things will continue apace.

I don't disagree with any of that. But I will also admit that it's hard for me to imagine a bunch of the 2020 youth vote buying into a rehabbed GOP in an era of climate change (not that the only alternative is they all become Democrats).

_________________
(patriotic choking noises)


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
PostPosted: Mon April 12, 2021 9:32 pm 
Offline
User avatar
Mind Your Tanners
 Profile

Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 6:02 am
Posts: 9712
Location: Tristes Tropiques
McParadigm wrote:
Mickey wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
Mickey wrote:
Generational thinking is mystical thinking.

In some ways I agree. But the majority of people vote more or less the same way at 65 that they did at 30, and the cultural and social issue stagnation of the Republican Party that has lasted for decades will make it really hard to correct course in a way that closes such a profound worldview gap.


I would simply reiterate that generational thinking is mystical thinking. The majority of people in the past two to three generations voted the same way at 65 as they did at 30. The last two or three generations faced a very different American reality with regards to the movement of global capital than the current one does. So while I think "fuck trans people" turns a TON of young voters off of the GOP, and that more generally the right makes their bargain with Evangelicals and traditionalists at the expense of a (mostly reactionary) youth vote, the Democrats and the broader left should be incredibly careful about assuming the youth vote is theirs, or that things will continue apace.

I don't disagree with any of that. But I will also admit that it's hard for me to imagine a bunch of the 2020 youth vote buying into a rehabbed GOP in an era of climate change (not that the only alternative is they all become Democrats).


Bolded part is key, I think--more likely the youth vote is massively depressed while reactionary millennials take the GOP pill than a full on youth swing to the right (not that the latter is impossible, but less likely than the above IMO).

_________________
VinylGuy wrote:
its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
PostPosted: Tue April 13, 2021 1:50 am 
Offline
User avatar
The Master
 Profile

Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 4:18 am
Posts: 27936
just a couple old guys deciding how the youth will vote


Top
 
 Post subject: Re: The Future of the GOP
PostPosted: Tue April 13, 2021 2:06 am 
Offline
User avatar
Mind Your Tanners
 Profile

Joined: Thu January 10, 2013 2:19 am
Posts: 8888
Location: SOUTH PORTLAND
spike wrote:
just a couple old guys deciding how the youth will vote

Yeah, Drop the Leash, Mickey & McP.


Top
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 903 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 ... 46  Next

Board index » Word on the Street » News & Debate


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 14 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
It is currently Thu March 28, 2024 8:20 am