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Author:  B [ Fri October 02, 2020 6:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism

simple schoolboy wrote:
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:


I can't imagine this will be long lived, but after the Sandia Labs kerfuffle, it seems like these type of trainings are bad for workplace culture.

Unless we want federal agencies and contractors to be staffed entirely by 30 or younger HR types...


"it seems like these type of trainings are bad for workplace culture.

Unless we want federal agencies and contractors to be staffed entirely by 30 or younger HR types ... " - Men, when they started Sexual Harassment trainings.


CRT trainings where you segregate employees by race is not exactly the same thing as sexual harassment training.


My full knowledge of CRT is this bullet page here: https://www.pcc.edu/equity/wp-content/u ... s-test.pdf

But I'm not sure why anyone would be broken into race groups. Sounds like a "hire new trainers" situation.

Author:  simple schoolboy [ Fri October 02, 2020 7:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism

B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:


I can't imagine this will be long lived, but after the Sandia Labs kerfuffle, it seems like these type of trainings are bad for workplace culture.

Unless we want federal agencies and contractors to be staffed entirely by 30 or younger HR types...


"it seems like these type of trainings are bad for workplace culture.

Unless we want federal agencies and contractors to be staffed entirely by 30 or younger HR types ... " - Men, when they started Sexual Harassment trainings.


CRT trainings where you segregate employees by race is not exactly the same thing as sexual harassment training.


My full knowledge of CRT is this bullet page here: https://www.pcc.edu/equity/wp-content/u ... s-test.pdf

But I'm not sure why anyone would be broken into race groups. Sounds like a "hire new trainers" situation.


Its entirely consistent with CRT and is what occured at Sandia Labs (allegedly). To have BIPOC individuals listen to their white colleagues "do the work" is emotional labor. Its taxing and unfair to them.

Hence breaking the group into ethnically based struggle sessions:

https://christopherrufo.com/national-nuclear-laboratory-training-on-white-privilege-and-white-male-culture/

Author:  B [ Fri October 02, 2020 7:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism

simple schoolboy wrote:
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:


I can't imagine this will be long lived, but after the Sandia Labs kerfuffle, it seems like these type of trainings are bad for workplace culture.

Unless we want federal agencies and contractors to be staffed entirely by 30 or younger HR types...


"it seems like these type of trainings are bad for workplace culture.

Unless we want federal agencies and contractors to be staffed entirely by 30 or younger HR types ... " - Men, when they started Sexual Harassment trainings.


CRT trainings where you segregate employees by race is not exactly the same thing as sexual harassment training.


My full knowledge of CRT is this bullet page here: https://www.pcc.edu/equity/wp-content/u ... s-test.pdf

But I'm not sure why anyone would be broken into race groups. Sounds like a "hire new trainers" situation.


Its entirely consistent with CRT and is what occured at Sandia Labs (allegedly). To have BIPOC individuals listen to their white colleagues "do the work" is emotional labor. Its taxing and unfair to them.

Hence breaking the group into ethnically based struggle sessions:

https://christopherrufo.com/national-nuclear-laboratory-training-on-white-privilege-and-white-male-culture/


OK, so I've heard that. But again, Trump didn't replace this with a different theory of diversity or sensitivity training. He just cancelled everything.

Author:  simple schoolboy [ Fri October 02, 2020 7:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism

B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:


I can't imagine this will be long lived, but after the Sandia Labs kerfuffle, it seems like these type of trainings are bad for workplace culture.

Unless we want federal agencies and contractors to be staffed entirely by 30 or younger HR types...


"it seems like these type of trainings are bad for workplace culture.

Unless we want federal agencies and contractors to be staffed entirely by 30 or younger HR types ... " - Men, when they started Sexual Harassment trainings.


CRT trainings where you segregate employees by race is not exactly the same thing as sexual harassment training.


My full knowledge of CRT is this bullet page here: https://www.pcc.edu/equity/wp-content/u ... s-test.pdf

But I'm not sure why anyone would be broken into race groups. Sounds like a "hire new trainers" situation.


Its entirely consistent with CRT and is what occured at Sandia Labs (allegedly). To have BIPOC individuals listen to their white colleagues "do the work" is emotional labor. Its taxing and unfair to them.

Hence breaking the group into ethnically based struggle sessions:

https://christopherrufo.com/national-nuclear-laboratory-training-on-white-privilege-and-white-male-culture/


OK, so I've heard that. But again, Trump didn't replace this with a different theory of diversity or sensitivity training. He just cancelled everything.


What are these trainings supposed to accomplish? Implicit Bias training tends to make things worse. If your workplace needs diversity or sensitivity training, it sounds like someone already should have been fired.

Should it just be rattling off a list of protected classes? Explain who you can be a dick to without getting fired or causing liability for your employer?

I'm 99 percent certain whatever the argument for why CRT training is valuable will end up being some Motte and Bailey BS about what the simplistic, high minded "just be considerate" version of CRT as opposed to what it IS.

Author:  Bammer [ Fri October 02, 2020 9:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism

simple schoolboy wrote:
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:


I can't imagine this will be long lived, but after the Sandia Labs kerfuffle, it seems like these type of trainings are bad for workplace culture.

Unless we want federal agencies and contractors to be staffed entirely by 30 or younger HR types...


"it seems like these type of trainings are bad for workplace culture.

Unless we want federal agencies and contractors to be staffed entirely by 30 or younger HR types ... " - Men, when they started Sexual Harassment trainings.


CRT trainings where you segregate employees by race is not exactly the same thing as sexual harassment training.


My full knowledge of CRT is this bullet page here: https://www.pcc.edu/equity/wp-content/u ... s-test.pdf

But I'm not sure why anyone would be broken into race groups. Sounds like a "hire new trainers" situation.


Its entirely consistent with CRT and is what occured at Sandia Labs (allegedly). To have BIPOC individuals listen to their white colleagues "do the work" is emotional labor. Its taxing and unfair to them.

Hence breaking the group into ethnically based struggle sessions:

https://christopherrufo.com/national-nuclear-laboratory-training-on-white-privilege-and-white-male-culture/


OK, so I've heard that. But again, Trump didn't replace this with a different theory of diversity or sensitivity training. He just cancelled everything.


What are these trainings supposed to accomplish? Implicit Bias training tends to make things worse. If your workplace needs diversity or sensitivity training, it sounds like someone already should have been fired.

Should it just be rattling off a list of protected classes? Explain who you can be a dick to without getting fired or causing liability for your employer?

I'm 99 percent certain whatever the argument for why CRT training is valuable will end up being some Motte and Bailey BS about what the simplistic, high minded "just be considerate" version of CRT as opposed to what it IS.

I admit I had to google Motte and Bailey

Author:  BurtReynolds [ Fri October 02, 2020 11:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism

Bammer wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:


I can't imagine this will be long lived, but after the Sandia Labs kerfuffle, it seems like these type of trainings are bad for workplace culture.

Unless we want federal agencies and contractors to be staffed entirely by 30 or younger HR types...


"it seems like these type of trainings are bad for workplace culture.

Unless we want federal agencies and contractors to be staffed entirely by 30 or younger HR types ... " - Men, when they started Sexual Harassment trainings.


CRT trainings where you segregate employees by race is not exactly the same thing as sexual harassment training.


My full knowledge of CRT is this bullet page here: https://www.pcc.edu/equity/wp-content/u ... s-test.pdf

But I'm not sure why anyone would be broken into race groups. Sounds like a "hire new trainers" situation.


Its entirely consistent with CRT and is what occured at Sandia Labs (allegedly). To have BIPOC individuals listen to their white colleagues "do the work" is emotional labor. Its taxing and unfair to them.

Hence breaking the group into ethnically based struggle sessions:

https://christopherrufo.com/national-nuclear-laboratory-training-on-white-privilege-and-white-male-culture/


OK, so I've heard that. But again, Trump didn't replace this with a different theory of diversity or sensitivity training. He just cancelled everything.


What are these trainings supposed to accomplish? Implicit Bias training tends to make things worse. If your workplace needs diversity or sensitivity training, it sounds like someone already should have been fired.

Should it just be rattling off a list of protected classes? Explain who you can be a dick to without getting fired or causing liability for your employer?

I'm 99 percent certain whatever the argument for why CRT training is valuable will end up being some Motte and Bailey BS about what the simplistic, high minded "just be considerate" version of CRT as opposed to what it IS.

I admit I had to google Motte and Bailey

Dedicate it to memory. Its a very popular tactic.

Author:  simple schoolboy [ Wed October 28, 2020 3:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism

Really weird how Critical Race Theory is manipulated to benefit upper class white women.

https://medium.com/@producingwhiteness/kelly-kean-sharp-chicana-54ea6a866af

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