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Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Wed July 15, 2020 7:48 pm
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BurtReynolds wrote:
Orpheus wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Orpheus wrote:
That's exactly what happened to Breonna Taylor and Botham Jean. Ahmaud Arbery was murdered by his neighbors while jogging in his neighborhood. Its not hysterical, its what happened!
Now here's the part where I spend all day posting links showing that it happens to whites too, often at slightly higher rates, none of which prove any sort of major existential threat to anyone and bla bla bla
Not doing it, man. Sorry.
Yeah, the police are terrible. So white folks should probably be for defunding them as well. Do you also have examples for housing? Medicine? The Courts? Education? Cause that's only a facet of the problem.
You didn't mention employment, which is a big one, and it certainly exists, and yeah I've been personally effected by it (at least a couple of times). It exists in education as well, but I'm not arguing against the existence of systemic racism, or at least that it has existed fairly recently.
That said, I do think most instances of systemic racism are really just regular racism. A racist in a position of power doesn't make the position racist, and you can't fight it by attacking the institution, and (I hate to use this phrase but it fits) "reverse racism" is usually a bad response to it.
Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Wed July 15, 2020 7:49 pm
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Mickey wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Orpheus wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Orpheus wrote:
That's exactly what happened to Breonna Taylor and Botham Jean. Ahmaud Arbery was murdered by his neighbors while jogging in his neighborhood. Its not hysterical, its what happened!
Now here's the part where I spend all day posting links showing that it happens to whites too, often at slightly higher rates, none of which prove any sort of major existential threat to anyone and bla bla bla
Not doing it, man. Sorry.
Yeah, the police are terrible. So white folks should probably be for defunding them as well. Do you also have examples for housing? Medicine? The Courts? Education? Cause that's only a facet of the problem.
You didn't mention employment, which is a big one, and it certainly exists, and yeah I've been personally effected by it (at least a couple of times). It exists in education as well, but I'm not arguing against the existence of systemic racism, or at least that it has existed fairly recently.
That said, I do think most instances of systemic racism are really just regular racism. A racist in a position of power doesn't make the position racist, and you can't fight it by attacking the institution, and (I hate to use this phrase but it fits) "reverse racism" is usually a bad response to it.
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Fuck.
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Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Wed July 15, 2020 7:53 pm
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BurtReynolds wrote:
Mickey wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Orpheus wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Orpheus wrote:
That's exactly what happened to Breonna Taylor and Botham Jean. Ahmaud Arbery was murdered by his neighbors while jogging in his neighborhood. Its not hysterical, its what happened!
Now here's the part where I spend all day posting links showing that it happens to whites too, often at slightly higher rates, none of which prove any sort of major existential threat to anyone and bla bla bla
Not doing it, man. Sorry.
Yeah, the police are terrible. So white folks should probably be for defunding them as well. Do you also have examples for housing? Medicine? The Courts? Education? Cause that's only a facet of the problem.
You didn't mention employment, which is a big one, and it certainly exists, and yeah I've been personally effected by it (at least a couple of times). It exists in education as well, but I'm not arguing against the existence of systemic racism, or at least that it has existed fairly recently.
That said, I do think most instances of systemic racism are really just regular racism. A racist in a position of power doesn't make the position racist, and you can't fight it by attacking the institution, and (I hate to use this phrase but it fits) "reverse racism" is usually a bad response to it.
*Affected
Fuck.
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Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Thu September 24, 2020 3:12 am
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Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Mon September 28, 2020 1:22 pm
Future Drummer
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 2:21 am Posts: 3236
I honestly don't know the answer to this other than people just need to relax and breathe a little.
There is currently an ad campaign going on in Vancouver by OnePlanetOneChild.org advocating for people to have less children. The mistake they've made is they used diversity in their advertising. People losing their 'minds' over the ads that depict the same idea with BIPOC actors rather than white actors. The BIPOC actor ads have been branded racist. Do these people complaining want diversity in advertising or not?
Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Fri October 02, 2020 3:53 pm
Classic B
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simple schoolboy wrote:
I can't imagine this will be long lived, but after the Sandia Labs kerfuffle, it seems like these type of trainings are bad for workplace culture.
Unless we want federal agencies and contractors to be staffed entirely by 30 or younger HR types...
"it seems like these type of trainings are bad for workplace culture.
Unless we want federal agencies and contractors to be staffed entirely by 30 or younger HR types ... " - Men, when they started Sexual Harassment trainings.
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Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
Posted: Fri October 02, 2020 6:43 pm
Future Drummer
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 3:41 am Posts: 2824
B wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
I can't imagine this will be long lived, but after the Sandia Labs kerfuffle, it seems like these type of trainings are bad for workplace culture.
Unless we want federal agencies and contractors to be staffed entirely by 30 or younger HR types...
"it seems like these type of trainings are bad for workplace culture.
Unless we want federal agencies and contractors to be staffed entirely by 30 or younger HR types ... " - Men, when they started Sexual Harassment trainings.
CRT trainings where you segregate employees by race is not exactly the same thing as sexual harassment training.
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