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 Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
PostPosted: Wed July 15, 2020 6:27 pm 
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"Fringe figure"


Don't worry guys it's just a fringe figure.

You can't help yourself.

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 Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
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If I seem like I'm being flippant in my responses, it's because I'm being flippant in my responses. I don't care to have this conversation for the millionth time, the nick cannon link wasn't meant as a refutation of systemic racism (I'm using this thread as a general racism thread tbh), and hysterical claims that racists are coming into people's houses and killing them while other people have to dig for reasons to be worried about racism isn't worth the time to respond to.

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 Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
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I don't care to have this conversation, which I single-handedly started!


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Watch out folks Mississippi Fredo is at it again!


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Although I am guilty of not upholding thread integrity. I accept whatever punishment RM deems fit. I throw myself at the mercy of the court.

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 Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
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But in my defense, the other racist thread doesn't specifically mention black racism, so I couldn't post it there either.

Almost like I'm being silenced!

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That's exactly what happened to Breonna Taylor and Botham Jean. Ahmaud Arbery was murdered by his neighbors while jogging in his neighborhood. Its not hysterical, its what happened!


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"LOL guys they were murdered in their homes for sleeping but Farrakhan is bad so who cares LOL"


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 Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
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Orpheus wrote:
That's exactly what happened to Breonna Taylor and Botham Jean. Ahmaud Arbery was murdered by his neighbors while jogging in his neighborhood. Its not hysterical, its what happened!



Its also what happened to Rhogena Nicholas and Dennis Tuttle! At least in that case they could demonstrate that the cop lied in the warrant application.


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That's exactly what happened to Breonna Taylor and Botham Jean. Ahmaud Arbery was murdered by his neighbors while jogging in his neighborhood. Its not hysterical, its what happened!

Now here's the part where I spend all day posting links showing that it happens to whites too, often at slightly higher rates, none of which prove any sort of major existential threat to most people's individual lives and bla bla bla

Not doing it, man. Sorry.

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 Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
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BurtReynolds wrote:
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That's exactly what happened to Breonna Taylor and Botham Jean. Ahmaud Arbery was murdered by his neighbors while jogging in his neighborhood. Its not hysterical, its what happened!

Now here's the part where I spend all day posting links showing that it happens to whites too, often at slightly higher rates, none of which prove any sort of major existential threat to anyone and bla bla bla

Not doing it, man. Sorry.


Yeah, the police are terrible. So white folks should probably be for defunding them as well. Do you also have examples for housing? Medicine? The Courts? Education? Cause that's only a facet of the problem.


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I regret my decision to participate in this thread!


I mean me too, but for entirely different reasons I'm guessing.


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He's afraid of being cancelled. But that's irrational I'm told.

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 Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
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He's afraid of being cancelled. But that's irrational I'm told.

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 Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
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Orpheus wrote:
Jorge wrote:
I regret my decision to participate in this thread!


I mean me too, but for entirely different reasons I'm guessing.

All I wanted was to have a nice conversation about semantics

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 Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
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I think I’ve posted here before about how I will occasionally get a huge stack of resumés for a job opening and at some point I will have to find something to use as a filter, so I will go to the person’s name.

To be perfectly clear I have no filter for nationality or race. I am purely after people whose parents were unfortunately douchebags and named their kid something like Atlas or Vedder.

Wait, this is awful!

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 Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
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Though I guess you have to cull the list somehow.

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 Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
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Orpheus wrote:
Obviously what he said is idiotic and unfortunate. The ravings of one moron don't really matter against 400 years of racism though, at least to me.

Y'all have this thing where one idiot is supposed to be an effective counterpoint to centuries of suffering, and sorry, i just can't give a shit. Is anyone listening to Nick fucking Cannon? No.

But lots of black people are dead who shouldn't be. It's called perspective, and it's why I can't take some of yall seriously. White people typically have to go digging for this shit. It comes to black people's homes and murders them.



I can't explain what Burt is saying, but the question was "is it possible to be racist against whites?". That doesn't mean that the horrors of historical racism and modern systemic racism aren't worse because they undeniably are.

edit: i would point to the fact it's also not just one idiot. anti-white speech, not necessarily of the nature of Cannon's, appears increasingly acceptable.

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 Post subject: Re: Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism
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That's exactly what happened to Breonna Taylor and Botham Jean. Ahmaud Arbery was murdered by his neighbors while jogging in his neighborhood. Its not hysterical, its what happened!

Now here's the part where I spend all day posting links showing that it happens to whites too, often at slightly higher rates, none of which prove any sort of major existential threat to anyone and bla bla bla

Not doing it, man. Sorry.


Yeah, the police are terrible. So white folks should probably be for defunding them as well. Do you also have examples for housing? Medicine? The Courts? Education? Cause that's only a facet of the problem.

You didn't mention employment, which is a big one, and it certainly exists, and yeah I've been personally effected by it (at least a couple of times). It exists in education as well, but I'm not arguing against the existence of systemic racism, or at least that it has existed fairly recently.

That said, I do think most instances of systemic racism are really just regular racism. A racist in a position of power doesn't make the position racist, and you can't fight it by attacking the institution, and (I hate to use this phrase but it fits) "reverse racism" is usually a bad response to it.

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