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Systemic / Institutional / Societal Racism

Wed June 10, 2020 3:57 pm

Looks like you're having an episode again, hope you feel better soon.

Re: Black Lives Matter

Wed June 10, 2020 5:24 pm

Re: Black Lives Matter

Wed June 10, 2020 7:23 pm

tree_ wrote:


I was going to give that a watch, even though I knew that guy was going to be some kind of weird black Republican, but 2 minutes in, he's talking about playing jazz trombone at Columbia, blah, blah, blah ... I'm out.

Re: Black Lives Matter

Wed June 10, 2020 7:26 pm

"weird black republican" is actually a racist thing to say

Re: Black Lives Matter

Wed June 10, 2020 7:37 pm

Possibly. I don't claim perfection. I keep trying.

Re: Black Lives Matter

Wed June 10, 2020 7:39 pm

It's OK. I'm just tired of everyone falsely calling people racists and then wanted to prop this up as an actual example of judging someone based on the color of their skin, as if it's weird for black people to be republican because black people should all think alike. This is actually something he addresses in the video, ironically.

Re: Black Lives Matter

Wed June 10, 2020 7:50 pm

No, I don't mind some introspection about what I said. Avoiding the discussion is the problem. Maybe it's wrong to assume all blacks are liberals just because the Republican party has shown unabashed anger at an policy that attempts to correct systemic racism.

But I'm definitely not going to slog through that boring ass video to find out.

Re: Black Lives Matter

Wed June 10, 2020 7:58 pm

Maybe systemic racism is almost entirely a thing of the past. Maybe there are other issues/forces at play holding groups of people down.

Re: Black Lives Matter

Wed June 10, 2020 7:59 pm

Nope

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Wed June 10, 2020 8:04 pm

Maybe

Re: Black Lives Matter

Wed June 10, 2020 8:06 pm

empirically, nope

Re: Black Lives Matter

Wed June 10, 2020 8:07 pm

durdencommatyler wrote:empirically, nope
Show me the facts, please.

Re: Black Lives Matter

Wed June 10, 2020 8:08 pm

Do your own homework, please

Re: Black Lives Matter

Wed June 10, 2020 8:09 pm

But you're the one who said "empirically". It's on you to show your work. All I said was "maybe". I've done the work that doesn't convince me already.

Re: Black Lives Matter

Wed June 10, 2020 8:11 pm

tree_ wrote:But you're the one who said "empirically". It's on you to show your work. All I said was "maybe". I've done the work that doesn't convince me already.

No. The onus is on you to show that systemic racism is a thing of the past.

Re: Black Lives Matter

Wed June 10, 2020 8:11 pm

I'm not doing this with you. It's fun for you. It's not fun for anyone else.

Re: Black Lives Matter

Wed June 10, 2020 8:12 pm

wease wrote:
tree_ wrote:But you're the one who said "empirically". It's on you to show your work. All I said was "maybe". I've done the work that doesn't convince me already.

No. The onus is on you to show that systemic racism is a thing of the past.
I said MAYBE. Did you see that? I said that I don't know. I don't have proof either way. I DON'T KNOW. I suspect you don't know either. It is fun to be on the bandwagon though, isn't it?
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Re: Black Lives Matter

Wed June 10, 2020 8:13 pm

Goddamn, Joe. You’re hot as a two-dollar pistol today.

Re: Black Lives Matter

Wed June 10, 2020 8:14 pm

tree_ wrote:
wease wrote:
tree_ wrote:But you're the one who said "empirically". It's on you to show your work. All I said was "maybe". I've done the work that doesn't convince me already.

No. The onus is on you to show that systemic racism is a thing of the past.
I said MAYBE. Did you see that? I said that I don't know. I don't have proof either way. I DON'T KNOW. I suspect you don't know either. It is fun to be on the bandwagon though, isn't it?

Joe’s right. I don’t know why I ever clicked to see your posts. It’s just the same old bullshit with you.

Re: Black Lives Matter

Wed June 10, 2020 8:15 pm

tree_ wrote:But you're the one who said "empirically". It's on you to show your work. All I said was "maybe". I've done the work that doesn't convince me already.


Can you show us your work (so far)?
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