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_________________ "The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don't have a f**king clue about how to build anything."
_________________ "The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don't have a f**king clue about how to build anything."
Post subject: Re: Post here when something gets CANCELLED
Posted: Fri April 02, 2021 2:24 pm
Mind Your Tanners
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 6:02 am Posts: 9712 Location: Tristes Tropiques
Absolutely incredible.
Quote:
Alan Dershowitz said a Yale psychiatrist’s tweet about him was “unprofessional, irresponsible and unacademic” and complained to the school about it.
In July 2019, Alan M. Dershowitz, the lawyer who defended President Donald J. Trump during Mr. Trump’s first impeachment trial, said in an interview that he had a “perfect sex life” with his wife.
Mr. Dershowitz’s phrasing — in response to questions about his connections to the accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein — drew headlines at the time. The comments also prompted Bandy X. Lee, then a psychiatrist at Yale University who had questioned Mr. Trump’s mental fitness and his influence over his supporters, to assess Mr. Dershowitz’s behavior.
In January 2020, she compared Mr. Dershowitz’s wording with Mr. Trump’s own prominent use of the word “perfect,” suggesting in a tweet that it could reflect a “shared psychosis” through which Mr. Dershowitz had taken on what she said was Mr. Trump’s “grandiosity and delusional-level impunity.”
Days later, Mr. Dershowitz complained in an email to Yale, saying that Dr. Lee had violated ethics rules by offering a public diagnosis without examining him. Shortly after, Dr. Lee says, the head of Yale’s psychiatry department warned her about her behavior.
Dr. Lee eventually lost her position at the school.
In a lawsuit filed this week, Dr. Lee, 50, said she was not reinstated last year to her appointment as a professor in the psychiatry department — for the first time since 2003 — and Mr. Dershowitz’s complaint was part of the reason why.
She contended that the tweet was not a formal diagnosis, and that Yale’s move violated her First Amendment rights and impinged on her academic freedom.
“My goal currently is to ensure that professionals and intellectuals are not silenced,” Dr. Lee said in an interview.
Dr. Bandy X. Lee, whose appointment was not renewed by Yale, said she had “tried to fulfill my societal duty, which is to call out signs of danger, and signs of unfitness.”
But to Mr. Dershowitz and others, Dr. Lee’s comments displayed a dangerous intermingling of medical opinions with politics. He said he had not communicated with Yale about Dr. Lee since his initial email to the university.
“The idea that you can diagnose me, without ever having even met me, is unprofessional, irresponsible and unacademic,” he said.
The case touches on an intense debate over free speech and decades-old guidelines that govern what psychiatrists like Dr. Lee should be allowed to say in public.
Mr. Dershowitz, a professor emeritus at Harvard Law School who graduated from Yale Law School in 1962, is a longtime criminal defense lawyer known for representing high-profile clients like Mr. Epstein, O.J. Simpson and Mike Tyson. He joined Mr. Trump’s defense team to make constitutional arguments against impeachment. His most recent book, “Cancel Culture: The Latest Attack on Free Speech and Due Process,” was published last year.
its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
Post subject: Re: Post here when something gets CANCELLED
Posted: Fri April 02, 2021 4:12 pm
Looks Like a Cat
Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm Posts: 14268
Mickey wrote:
Absolutely incredible.
Quote:
Alan Dershowitz said a Yale psychiatrist’s tweet about him was “unprofessional, irresponsible and unacademic” and complained to the school about it.
In July 2019, Alan M. Dershowitz, the lawyer who defended President Donald J. Trump during Mr. Trump’s first impeachment trial, said in an interview that he had a “perfect sex life” with his wife.
Mr. Dershowitz’s phrasing — in response to questions about his connections to the accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein — drew headlines at the time. The comments also prompted Bandy X. Lee, then a psychiatrist at Yale University who had questioned Mr. Trump’s mental fitness and his influence over his supporters, to assess Mr. Dershowitz’s behavior.
In January 2020, she compared Mr. Dershowitz’s wording with Mr. Trump’s own prominent use of the word “perfect,” suggesting in a tweet that it could reflect a “shared psychosis” through which Mr. Dershowitz had taken on what she said was Mr. Trump’s “grandiosity and delusional-level impunity.”
Days later, Mr. Dershowitz complained in an email to Yale, saying that Dr. Lee had violated ethics rules by offering a public diagnosis without examining him. Shortly after, Dr. Lee says, the head of Yale’s psychiatry department warned her about her behavior.
Dr. Lee eventually lost her position at the school.
In a lawsuit filed this week, Dr. Lee, 50, said she was not reinstated last year to her appointment as a professor in the psychiatry department — for the first time since 2003 — and Mr. Dershowitz’s complaint was part of the reason why.
She contended that the tweet was not a formal diagnosis, and that Yale’s move violated her First Amendment rights and impinged on her academic freedom.
“My goal currently is to ensure that professionals and intellectuals are not silenced,” Dr. Lee said in an interview.
Dr. Bandy X. Lee, whose appointment was not renewed by Yale, said she had “tried to fulfill my societal duty, which is to call out signs of danger, and signs of unfitness.”
But to Mr. Dershowitz and others, Dr. Lee’s comments displayed a dangerous intermingling of medical opinions with politics. He said he had not communicated with Yale about Dr. Lee since his initial email to the university.
“The idea that you can diagnose me, without ever having even met me, is unprofessional, irresponsible and unacademic,” he said.
The case touches on an intense debate over free speech and decades-old guidelines that govern what psychiatrists like Dr. Lee should be allowed to say in public.
Mr. Dershowitz, a professor emeritus at Harvard Law School who graduated from Yale Law School in 1962, is a longtime criminal defense lawyer known for representing high-profile clients like Mr. Epstein, O.J. Simpson and Mike Tyson. He joined Mr. Trump’s defense team to make constitutional arguments against impeachment. His most recent book, “Cancel Culture: The Latest Attack on Free Speech and Due Process,” was published last year.
In the last decade, has anyone fallen further than him in terms of public perception? (without criminal conviction)
_________________ "The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don't have a f**king clue about how to build anything."
Post subject: Re: Post here when something gets CANCELLED
Posted: Fri April 02, 2021 4:34 pm
Mind Your Tanners
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 6:02 am Posts: 9712 Location: Tristes Tropiques
For whatever reason my first thought was "Michael Vick" but that would be wrong on two counts.
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VinylGuy wrote:
its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
Post subject: Re: Post here when something gets CANCELLED
Posted: Fri April 02, 2021 4:49 pm
I Have A Third Nipple
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 7:41 am Posts: 19724 Location: Cumberland, RI
Bi_3 wrote:
Mickey wrote:
Absolutely incredible.
Quote:
Alan Dershowitz said a Yale psychiatrist’s tweet about him was “unprofessional, irresponsible and unacademic” and complained to the school about it.
In July 2019, Alan M. Dershowitz, the lawyer who defended President Donald J. Trump during Mr. Trump’s first impeachment trial, said in an interview that he had a “perfect sex life” with his wife.
Mr. Dershowitz’s phrasing — in response to questions about his connections to the accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein — drew headlines at the time. The comments also prompted Bandy X. Lee, then a psychiatrist at Yale University who had questioned Mr. Trump’s mental fitness and his influence over his supporters, to assess Mr. Dershowitz’s behavior.
In January 2020, she compared Mr. Dershowitz’s wording with Mr. Trump’s own prominent use of the word “perfect,” suggesting in a tweet that it could reflect a “shared psychosis” through which Mr. Dershowitz had taken on what she said was Mr. Trump’s “grandiosity and delusional-level impunity.”
Days later, Mr. Dershowitz complained in an email to Yale, saying that Dr. Lee had violated ethics rules by offering a public diagnosis without examining him. Shortly after, Dr. Lee says, the head of Yale’s psychiatry department warned her about her behavior.
Dr. Lee eventually lost her position at the school.
In a lawsuit filed this week, Dr. Lee, 50, said she was not reinstated last year to her appointment as a professor in the psychiatry department — for the first time since 2003 — and Mr. Dershowitz’s complaint was part of the reason why.
She contended that the tweet was not a formal diagnosis, and that Yale’s move violated her First Amendment rights and impinged on her academic freedom.
“My goal currently is to ensure that professionals and intellectuals are not silenced,” Dr. Lee said in an interview.
Dr. Bandy X. Lee, whose appointment was not renewed by Yale, said she had “tried to fulfill my societal duty, which is to call out signs of danger, and signs of unfitness.”
But to Mr. Dershowitz and others, Dr. Lee’s comments displayed a dangerous intermingling of medical opinions with politics. He said he had not communicated with Yale about Dr. Lee since his initial email to the university.
“The idea that you can diagnose me, without ever having even met me, is unprofessional, irresponsible and unacademic,” he said.
The case touches on an intense debate over free speech and decades-old guidelines that govern what psychiatrists like Dr. Lee should be allowed to say in public.
Mr. Dershowitz, a professor emeritus at Harvard Law School who graduated from Yale Law School in 1962, is a longtime criminal defense lawyer known for representing high-profile clients like Mr. Epstein, O.J. Simpson and Mike Tyson. He joined Mr. Trump’s defense team to make constitutional arguments against impeachment. His most recent book, “Cancel Culture: The Latest Attack on Free Speech and Due Process,” was published last year.
In the last decade, has anyone fallen further than him in terms of public perception? (without criminal conviction)
I can't remember exactly when Rudy Giuliani flipped from "America's Mayor" to....whatever he is now, but if that was in the past decade, then that is 100% it.
Post subject: Re: Post here when something gets CANCELLED
Posted: Fri April 02, 2021 5:06 pm
Mind Your Tanners
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 6:02 am Posts: 9712 Location: Tristes Tropiques
Wasn't his supply already tainted in 2008? It's definitely lower now though.
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VinylGuy wrote:
its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
Post subject: Re: Post here when something gets CANCELLED
Posted: Fri April 02, 2021 5:07 pm
Looks Like a Cat
Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm Posts: 14268
Ah, good call ST.
_________________ "The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don't have a f**king clue about how to build anything."
Post subject: Re: Post here when something gets CANCELLED
Posted: Fri April 02, 2021 9:05 pm
Mind Your Tanners
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 6:02 am Posts: 9712 Location: Tristes Tropiques
It wasn't cancelled.
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VinylGuy wrote:
its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
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