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Author: | doug rr [ Sat August 01, 2020 2:31 pm ] |
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Author: | McParadigm [ Sat August 01, 2020 3:44 pm ] |
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Bi_3 wrote: elliseamos wrote: Bi_3 wrote: simple schoolboy wrote: BurtReynolds wrote: When body cams provide too much accountability Why would this decision not also apply to private individuals live streaming? No expectation of privacy in public, so why does it matter who is livestreaming? It's the easiest way to reduce crime: eliminate evidence it ever happened which is what I'm thinking is the parrellel the ACLU is drawing. Didnt the ACLU recently say they were putting antiracism over civil liberties? Something like they would no longer defend hate speech? I honestly don’t know if they did. Google it and let us know. In the meantime, I’m unclear why the distinction between “a government enforcement agency should be documenting its behaviors during protests for accountability purposes,” and “that agency shouldn’t be live streaming footage in real time” is at all complex. |
Author: | Bi_3 [ Sat August 01, 2020 3:51 pm ] |
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McParadigm wrote: **snip** In the meantime, I’m unclear why the distinction between “a government enforcement agency should be documenting its behaviors during protests for accountability purposes,” and “that footage shouldn’t be live-streamed in real time” is at all complex. Me too. Both should mandated to ensure honest and complete disclosure to the public. We cannot continue to allow selective edits on socials to be used to manipulate public opinion, so live streams are a good solution that allow independent sources to hold both officer and civilian accountable for their behaviors. |
Author: | elliseamos [ Sat August 01, 2020 4:02 pm ] |
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Livestreaming is the key phrase. I got it now. Missed that distinction before. Innocent until proven guilty should be maintained. Video could always be evidence (for either party). As opposed "to guilty because I saw you in the crowd during an active live stream." Makes much more sense to me now. |
Author: | simple schoolboy [ Sat August 01, 2020 6:41 pm ] |
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Do not accept an object from a stranger in a crowd under the assurance that it is a 'firework' and then ignite said object and throw it at a federal building. Whatever ATF or FBI agent that was is probably in line for a promotion. |
Author: | Bi_3 [ Sat August 01, 2020 6:45 pm ] |
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Peaceful |
Author: | simple schoolboy [ Sat August 01, 2020 6:49 pm ] |
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Bi_3 wrote: Peaceful Also, if accurate, he "turned himself into his PO" (parole officer?). So, violated in the local system, and now serious federal time. His prefontal cortex will be fully developed by the time he gets out, so maybe he can be a productive member of society when he's 30 something. |
Author: | BurtReynolds [ Sat August 01, 2020 10:59 pm ] |
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Author: | Bi_3 [ Sat August 01, 2020 11:18 pm ] |
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https://www.chron.com/news/article/DHS-had-access-to-messages-from-Portland-15450458.php |
Author: | BurtReynolds [ Sat August 01, 2020 11:36 pm ] |
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Probably just moles in the chats. I think Telegram is pretty secure. But who knows. The Deep State is probably trying out all sorts of new toys on the rioters. |
Author: | simple schoolboy [ Sun August 02, 2020 1:23 am ] |
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BurtReynolds wrote: Probably just moles in the chats. I think Telegram is pretty secure. But who knows. The Deep State is probably trying out all sorts of new toys on the rioters. I'm sure all state and local stingrays were hoovering all text messages and call logs up. |
Author: | BurtReynolds [ Sun August 02, 2020 1:41 am ] |
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Pretty smart using horses. Bigger than bikes, but don't have the stigma of driving through crowds in a vehicle. Plus, who wants to hurt a horse? |
Author: | 96583UP [ Sun August 02, 2020 2:57 am ] |
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elliseamos wrote: Livestreaming is the key phrase. I got it now. Missed that distinction before. Innocent until proven guilty should be maintained. Video could always be evidence (for either party). As opposed "to guilty because I saw you in the crowd during an active live stream." Makes much more sense to me now. good point
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Author: | 96583UP [ Sun August 02, 2020 3:05 am ] |
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BurtReynolds wrote: Pretty smart using horses. Bigger than bikes, but don't have the stigma of driving through crowds in a vehicle. Plus, who wants to hurt a horse? so true the protestors wouldn't set a horse on fire and the horses have more discipline than the protestors when it comes to non-violent confrontation like planting a calm, experienced bouncer in front of a way-too-drunk prom queen she can throw a few punches at him but his belly will just absorb them like a memory foam pillow while he smiles |
Author: | elliseamos [ Sun August 02, 2020 3:09 am ] |
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96583UP wrote: elliseamos wrote: Livestreaming is the key phrase. I got it now. Missed that distinction before. Innocent until proven guilty should be maintained. Video could always be evidence (for either party). As opposed "to guilty because I saw you in the crowd during an active live stream." Makes much more sense to me now. good point
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Author: | elliseamos [ Sun August 02, 2020 3:10 am ] |
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96583UP wrote: BurtReynolds wrote: Pretty smart using horses. Bigger than bikes, but don't have the stigma of driving through crowds in a vehicle. Plus, who wants to hurt a horse? so true the protestors wouldn't set a horse on fire and the horses have more discipline than the protestors when it comes to non-violent confrontation like planting a calm, experienced bouncer in front of a way-too-drunk prom queen she can throw a few punches at him but his belly will just absorb them like a memory foam pillow while he smiles |
Author: | 96583UP [ Sun August 02, 2020 3:29 am ] |
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elliseamos wrote: 96583UP wrote: BurtReynolds wrote: Pretty smart using horses. Bigger than bikes, but don't have the stigma of driving through crowds in a vehicle. Plus, who wants to hurt a horse? so true the protestors wouldn't set a horse on fire and the horses have more discipline than the protestors when it comes to non-violent confrontation like planting a calm, experienced bouncer in front of a way-too-drunk prom queen she can throw a few punches at him but his belly will just absorb them like a memory foam pillow while he smiles the horses usually have eye protectors |
Author: | elliseamos [ Sun August 02, 2020 3:35 am ] |
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96583UP wrote: elliseamos wrote: 96583UP wrote: BurtReynolds wrote: Pretty smart using horses. Bigger than bikes, but don't have the stigma of driving through crowds in a vehicle. Plus, who wants to hurt a horse? so true the protestors wouldn't set a horse on fire and the horses have more discipline than the protestors when it comes to non-violent confrontation like planting a calm, experienced bouncer in front of a way-too-drunk prom queen she can throw a few punches at him but his belly will just absorb them like a memory foam pillow while he smiles the horses usually have eye protectors Ok, insert "tazes" or "pepperballs" or any other inept thing the dunce on the horse could do to the horse whilst riding and "dominating." |
Author: | 96583UP [ Sun August 02, 2020 3:46 am ] |
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elliseamos wrote: 96583UP wrote: elliseamos wrote: 96583UP wrote: BurtReynolds wrote: Pretty smart using horses. Bigger than bikes, but don't have the stigma of driving through crowds in a vehicle. Plus, who wants to hurt a horse? so true the protestors wouldn't set a horse on fire and the horses have more discipline than the protestors when it comes to non-violent confrontation like planting a calm, experienced bouncer in front of a way-too-drunk prom queen she can throw a few punches at him but his belly will just absorb them like a memory foam pillow while he smiles the horses usually have eye protectors Ok, insert "tazes" or "pepperballs" or any other inept thing the dunce on the horse could do to the horse whilst riding and "dominating." horse cops aren't dunces dunces don't get assigned police horses
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Author: | simple schoolboy [ Sun August 02, 2020 4:22 am ] |
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BurtReynolds wrote: Pretty smart using horses. Bigger than bikes, but don't have the stigma of driving through crowds in a vehicle. Plus, who wants to hurt a horse? Plus, they can use sabre length batons. Such leverage, much energy. Bonus ability: kicking anyone getting close to its rear. |
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