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 Post subject: Re: The Protest Thread
PostPosted: Sun January 31, 2021 6:11 pm 
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elliseamos wrote:
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Probably just me but I see a difference between: “I couldn’t get my vaccine because protestors blocked traffic” and “I couldnt deliver the pizzas because protestors blocked traffic”.

But both are harmful, selfish actions and that’s my point.

I don't see protest as selfish, unless you're forcing others to agree with you.


Let's not move the goal posts too far...

If this is true:

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- a march down a highway in support of all people being treated equally is demonstrating (purposefully indirectly) to demand a forum/conversation.


Then blocking traffic is forcing others to agree with you because the protestors are restricting the uninvolved bystanders agency and forcing them into engaging with that demand without their prior consent.



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Anti-vaxxers are forcing others to not get vaxxed.


From their perspective they are stopping mass suicides, like from your perspective the people blocking traffic are fighting racial injustice. Both noble motives, both being done in context of actions where the perceived good outweighs the harm. The problem that arises is that our society reserves the power to deny a choice for the government alone. Governments exist to enforce the restriction of choice on their citizens. That is why they are there. Traffic blocking protestors, be they anti-vaxx or otherwise, don't get to assume that power because they claim an allegedly morally superior position.

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 Post subject: Re: The Protest Thread
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I may not be able to explain it beyond this, and I don't feel like I'm moving any goalposts, but I see it this way:

You blocking the road to try to get people to acknowledge a problem is different than you blocking access to something I am choosing to do to myself.



I feel like your "government" talk is changing the subject.


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 Post subject: Re: The Protest Thread
PostPosted: Sun January 31, 2021 6:39 pm 
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Imagine thinking that blocking the road for any reason accomplishes anything at all.

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You could plant a lot of pretty flowers in the holes ellis is digging his heels into all over this convo.


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 Post subject: Re: The Protest Thread
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verb_to_trust wrote:
Imagine thinking that blocking the road for any reason accomplishes anything at all.

Where would anyone ever, in the history of mankind, get the slightest notion that this could... oh...

"The Selma to Montgomery marches were three protest marches, held in 1965, along the 54-mile (87 km) highway from Selma, Alabama, to the state capital of Montgomery. The marches were organized by nonviolent activists to demonstrate the desire of African-American citizens to exercise their constitutional right to vote, in defiance of segregationist repression; they were part of a broader voting rights movement underway in Selma and throughout the American South. By highlighting racial injustice, they contributed to passage that year of the Voting Rights Act, a landmark federal achievement of the civil rights movement."


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 Post subject: Re: The Protest Thread
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No one in the history of mankind has ever had their mind changed in favor of morons preventing them from traveling or beating on their cars. It's literally never happened.

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elliseamos wrote:
I may not be able to explain it beyond this, and I don't feel like I'm moving any goalposts, but I see it this way:

You blocking the road to try to get people to acknowledge a problem is different than you blocking access to something I am choosing to do to myself.



I feel like your "government" talk is changing the subject.

Both are trying to get people to acknowledge what they see as a problem.

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 Post subject: Re: The Protest Thread
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BurtReynolds wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
I may not be able to explain it beyond this, and I don't feel like I'm moving any goalposts, but I see it this way:

You blocking the road to try to get people to acknowledge a problem is different than you blocking access to something I am choosing to do to myself.



I feel like your "government" talk is changing the subject.

Both are trying to get people to acknowledge what they see as a problem.

One is and one is preventing people from getting a shot they've chosen to get.


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 Post subject: Re: The Protest Thread
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You just don't get it.

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 Post subject: Re: The Protest Thread
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I've considered this settled a while ago, Burt, when bi said "And you may say it doesn't restrict other's choice in the same way, and there is truth there..."

That's my only point. The original post was about normalizing this as a protest tactic and it's been around forever so that was dumb to begin with, but the two events are very different.


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 Post subject: Re: The Protest Thread
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Weird choice, when the Empire was clearly the good guys.


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 Post subject: Re: The Protest Thread
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https://www.nationalreview.com/news/rioters-set-fire-to-federal-courthouse-in-portland-one-day-after-fencing-removed/

Rioters Set Fire to Federal Courthouse in Portland One Day after Fencing Removed

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 Post subject: Re: The Protest Thread
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Yeah they been acting up again.

How is the Minneapolis insurrec...I mean...totally harmless autonomous zone going?

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 Post subject: Re: The Protest Thread
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on June 1, 2020, Mickey wrote wrote:
I was this close to making a thread called "The Coming Insurrection" just now

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 Post subject: Re: The Protest Thread
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96583UP wrote:
on June 1, 2020, Mickey wrote wrote:
I was this close to making a thread called "The Coming Insurrection" just now

Knee Tunes should credit Mickey I guess.


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 Post subject: Re: The Protest Thread
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elliseamos wrote:
96583UP wrote:
on June 1, 2020, Mickey wrote wrote:
I was this close to making a thread called "The Coming Insurrection" just now

Knee Tunes should credit Mickey I guess.


This is getting close:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... ay/618408/

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 Post subject: Re: The Protest Thread
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“You should be terrorized for the rest of your life. You should never be able to leave your house, if that is how you are going to use your position to govern," Henry said of Sinema. "The same thing sort of applies with the mayor and city manager of this city."


https://www.yahoo.com/now/protesters-le ... 40948.html




It never should have been allowed to go this far.

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 Post subject: Re: The Protest Thread
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Protest season is starting early this year. Must be climate change.

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Protest season is starting early this year. Must be climate change.

Protest climate is unchanged.

Don't be foolish.


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 Post subject: Re: The Protest Thread
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elliseamos wrote:
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Protest season is starting early this year. Must be climate change.

Protest climate is unchanged.

Don't be foolish.


Teasers for S2 released online!



CNN fleeing scene after being attacked:




five felony charges, including arson and.... released without bail (racist justice system!!!!11!!):




Progressives listening to Black suffering:



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