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 Post subject: Re: Australian Politics
PostPosted: Mon June 29, 2020 10:13 pm 
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It was the day that the first fleet (convict settlement) arrived in Sydney Cove.

I honestly hope that the next government is a Labor government and they call for another republic referendum. Once we break from the UK/monarchy we can establish a shared day to celebrate. Make it around mid to late January (NOT 26th) and it remains the end of summer holidays public holiday we have now.

We can also piss the union jack off of our flag while we're at it.

These are two entirely separate issues. Unless I'm mistaken, public support to retain the monarchy has been growing steadily since the 90s, as has support for changing the date of Australia Day. We can have both!

Yes we can, I agree. However I don't see it happening until we become a republic.


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 Post subject: Re: Australian Politics
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Birds in Hell wrote:
LetMeSleep wrote:
It was the day that the first fleet (convict settlement) arrived in Sydney Cove.

I honestly hope that the next government is a Labor government and they call for another republic referendum. Once we break from the UK/monarchy we can establish a shared day to celebrate. Make it around mid to late January (NOT 26th) and it remains the end of summer holidays public holiday we have now.

We can also piss the union jack off of our flag while we're at it.

These are two entirely separate issues.

Support for the monarchy has grown significantly since the 90s, I think it would be a massive blunder for any near-future government to revisit the issue (Turnbull was wise to leave it alone during his term).

I had presumed there was a groundswell of support for changing the date of Australia Day (and originally reflected this in my post), but I can't find anything that bears that out. A Guardian/Essential poll in 2017 found 70% of Australians still support retaining 26 January as Australia Day.

Just for the new page, I revised my post (as explained therein).


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 Post subject: Re: Australian Politics
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I think that the 70% may need to revisit this on the basis that it doesn't mean a lot to them whilst it does mean a hell of a lot to those who see the 26th as Invasion Day.

That's my point - why not give over something that most people don't care about except for (a) inertia and (b) "It's always been the 26th Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi Check out my Southern Cross tat".

The needs of the few outweigh the many in this case imo.

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 Post subject: Re: Australian Politics
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The few are growing. It may be that I work on 2 indigenous tv channels but I see a lot more change happening (or maybe just awareness).


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 Post subject: Re: Australian Politics
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Sorry Day means a lot and cost Australia nothing. I see this as something similar - much upside, little downside.

And it would give the BLM movement here in Australia some solid change to point to. It seems we live in a time where people want change.

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 Post subject: Re: Australian Politics
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Yeah, there are someone analogues between Australia Day and Columbus Day over here in the US. The latter is additionally problematic due to the bad things Columbus himself did, but while you can't turn the clock back on colonialism, it's not exactly something that should be outright celebrated, either.


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 Post subject: Re: Australian Politics
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I'm not sure how much appetite there is to make Murdoch Land a Republic...

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 Post subject: Re: Australian Politics
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We keep voting against it for some reason.

Must say though, I'm not particularly passionate about it either way. Pretty sure 'Sleep is pro Republic and Spenno is pro Queenie. Not sure where other RMers stand.

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 Post subject: Re: Australian Politics
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Man did I enjoy this one. I wasn't aware of the collusion and the delaying tactics that Kerr used. The angle of the CIA and the US, added with the Prince Charles comments make this still a mystery as to influence on Kerr.

Now I'm catching up on The Guardian's pod Full Story regarding the Palace Letters from a month ago.


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