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 Post subject: Re: The Supreme Court
PostPosted: Fri July 10, 2020 5:06 am 
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nah man cause this temporary shield of protection collapses once he leaves office

and he is so stupid he'll likely commit new crimes


If we can't see them before November who cares?


people who want to see him punished in 2021+



Anyone who thinks that will happen is delusional

see you guys in 2021+

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 Post subject: Re: The Supreme Court
PostPosted: Fri July 10, 2020 6:44 am 
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Well, today's opinions sucked. A double dose of giving religious organizations exemptions that secular ones cannot enjoy.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/1 ... 7_1an2.pdf
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/1 ... 1_5i36.pdf


How could a religious institution have employees that promote its faith under your preferred regime? Should religious organizations be generally barred from having employees?

The interpretation of the establishment clause has been extended far beyond its intent.

I might feel differently living in heavily Mormon Idaho, of course.


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 Post subject: Re: The Supreme Court
PostPosted: Tue July 14, 2020 11:23 pm 
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Considering we're in the midst of #330 of RBG's hospital visits, I'm wondering if people here with more understanding of the process of selecting another justice can help with a question. Now, of course McConnell will try to fill a vacancy no matter what this year, but in terms of the process, does a point come where that would not be feasible prior to Election Day? These things often take months; Kavanaugh was nominated in early July, with a Senate vote in October, with Gorsuch taking a little over two months on a decidedly less controversial nomination process. Does there come a point where if August comes and RBG is still around, there's not going to be a Senate vote before Election Day?

Obviously, I think McConnell would do it anyway in the lame duck session, even if Biden wins, but I'm curious if there's a point where there is no way there'll be a Senate vote before Election Day.


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 Post subject: Re: The Supreme Court
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Quick Answer: Nothing can stop Don Jr from being appointed

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 Post subject: Re: The Supreme Court
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I'm sure he's going to do whatever he has to do, but I'm wondering if there comes a point when the rules trip him up (for example, I'm making this up, but something like there needs to a certain number of days between the nomination and the hearing).


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 Post subject: Re: The Supreme Court
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The Constitution just says with the advise and consent of the Senate. Any rules they follow are self made, so McConnell can do whatever the fuck he wants, really.

Someone tell me I'm wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: The Supreme Court
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If she dies the morning of January 20, 2021, he'll make sure to have her replacement confirmed by noon, I would imagine.


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 Post subject: Re: The Supreme Court
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If she dies the morning of January 20, 2021, he'll make sure to have her replacement confirmed by noon, I would imagine.

Isn't the new Congress sworn in in early January? This would only work if the GOP kept a majority or a 50/50 split.

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 Post subject: Re: The Supreme Court
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January 3rd. They'd have roughly two months post election, not counting whatever recesses are in there.

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 Post subject: Re: The Supreme Court
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Put me down along the other responses that say the GOP would replace her within minutes if they had to before their power to do so expires.


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 Post subject: Re: The Supreme Court
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I didn't think it through, so I guess she can't die before January 2, unless they keep the senate. The Merrick Garland saga tells us all we need to know. The GOP didn't care about doing the right thing even before Trump. It's only about beating those Libs.


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 Post subject: Re: The Supreme Court
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If RGB dies before the election, I bet McConnell tries to spin it that the no confirmation before an election policy applied to Scalia and not her because 2016 was a non incumbent election. "Well, we're operating under the assumption that Donald Trump will still be President."


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 Post subject: Re: The Supreme Court
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If RGB dies before the election, I bet McConnell tries to spin it that the no confirmation before an election policy applied to Scalia and not her because 2016 was a non incumbent election. "Well, we're operating under the assumption that Donald Trump will still be President."


You could be right, because this is his quote, with the word "new" in it. But that would undermine the "let the people decide" angle.

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“The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president,”


And it happened immediately

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The swiftness of McConnell’s statement — coming about an hour after Scalia’s death in Texas had been confirmed — stunned White House officials who had expected the Kentucky Republican to block their nominee with every tool at his disposal, but didn't imagine the combative GOP leader would issue an instant, categorical rejection of anyone Obama chose to nominate.


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 Post subject: Re: The Supreme Court
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gorsuch was a pleasant surprise

maybe he has a twin, more liberal brother

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 Post subject: Re: The Supreme Court
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 Post subject: Re: The Supreme Court
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I'm starting to wonder if she just does this to fuck with people.


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 Post subject: Re: The Supreme Court
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real question: if she is alive but in a vegetative state or coma in the hospital, is that the same thing as being alive-alive; or can the GOP start the nomination process?

unrelated question: if a person dies, but the hospital keeps their heart beating with a machine until January 4th; can the GOP start the nomination process before Jan 4?

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 Post subject: Re: The Supreme Court
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There has to be an RBG lookalike that we can parade around for a few months!


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 Post subject: Re: The Supreme Court
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everyone is dialing in remote anyways

we can get some ghostwriter and a voice character actor to spew some liberalista into the headset for a couple months

no one will know the difference

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 Post subject: Re: The Supreme Court
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real question: if she is alive but in a vegetative state or coma in the hospital, is that the same thing as being alive-alive; or can the GOP start the nomination process?

unrelated question: if a person dies, but the hospital keeps their heart beating with a machine until January 4th; can the GOP start the nomination process before Jan 4?

GH strike me dead if I'm wrong, but Trump could name a new nominee tomorrow morning and McConnell could start the process in the Senate after lunch if they wanted to confirm someone else. The Constitution doesn't say there are 9 justices. Trump could declare that he thinks RBG isn't healthy enough to be relied on and put someone else up, and then theoretically it would be a 10-person Supreme Court until RBG (or someone else) dies or retires. Or until Biden and the radical left Democrats who sweep into power in November nominate and install an 11th justice.

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