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Private prisons Sanders: eliminate SnD: never had them
election security mandate Sanders: paper ballots SnD: use technology
Affordable housing Sanders: construction funding, rent control, taxes to curb speculation SnD: UBI, public housing, eliminate foreign ownership, speculation taxes
Big banks Sanders: bring back Glass-Steagull SnD: not knowledgeable enough to say but Canada is highly regulated
Income Inequality Sanders: raise taxes on wealthy, new social programs SnD: we already have both
minimum wage Sanders: $15 SnD: $15 or more
paid leave Sanders: several months of broad paid leave SnD: already have this
Reparation Sanders: study SnD: in favour of an additional 10% income tax premium to fund Indigenous communities
Charter schools Sanders: restrict growth SnD; already restricted
cost of college Sanders: free SnD: STEM and other in demand free
Student debt Sanders: cancel all student debt SnD: I differ here. YOu borrowed you pay back. Open to a one time career funding program that could also be used for opening own business
Teacher Pay Sanders: boost SnD: already boosted (starting pay in BC over $60 and goes up over $100K)
campaign finance Sanders: cancel unlimited spending SnD: restrict funding to being only from citizens and with a fairly low cap
Felon voting Sanders: allow to vote while incarcerated SnD: agree and I believe already have
Nuclear power Sanders: close down existing SnD: expand for greenhouse free emissions
oil and gas drilling Sanders: ban fracking SnD: pause and study
reduce carbon emissions Sanders: gov't regs SnD: gov't regs and mandatory year over year improvement
farm economy Sanders: break up agri business SnD: not knowledgeable to say
Farming and climate change Sanders: pay farmers to use climate friendly SnD: see required year over year improvements
nutrition Sanders: universal free meals in schools SnD: UBI so even the poorest families can afford to feed their kids. Nutrition and basic cooking classes in school
rights for farm owners and workers Sanders: expand worker protections SnD: not knowledgeable
wall street Sanders: tax trades SnD: agree, it is a service and as such should fall under our federal goods and services tax
wealth tax Sansers: create SnD: don't agree, do a better job taxing the first time. Open to having my mind changed
rural broadband Sanders; create public option SnD: addressing via private sector rules and regs, mandatory as part of buying broadband spectrum license
social media Sanders: consider legal liable for posters SnD: between no and not knowledgeable enough
tech competition and antitrust Sanders: break them up SnD: tech is not the enemy but monopolies must be regulated
China Sanders: support goal, change approach SnD: not knowledgeable but leery of trade agreements with China
NAFTA/USMCA Snaders: against SnD; for
Tariffs Sanders: use to crack down on certain countries SnD; agree but rules based and not biased against certain countries
TPP 2.0 Sanders oppose joining SnD: not knowledgeable enough to say
_________________ Think I’m going to try being kind to everyone a chance.
@Norris and @Spike - do I look like a conservative? Lets see how you compare. I will admit that a lot of the heavy lifting has already been done in Canada, so it's much easier for me to support existing rules than push for change.
_________________ Think I’m going to try being kind to everyone a chance.
@Norris and @Spike - do I look like a conservative? Lets see how you compare. I will admit that a lot of the heavy lifting has already been done in Canada, so it's much easier for me to support existing rules than push for change.
I don’t think anyone was labeling you as conservative, but rather commenting on a 180 in conservative thinking on the issue, simply because it has to do with vaccine mandates.
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
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spike wrote:
surfndestroy wrote:
@Norris and @Spike - do I look like a conservative? Lets see how you compare. I will admit that a lot of the heavy lifting has already been done in Canada, so it's much easier for me to support existing rules than push for change.
I don’t think anyone was labeling you as conservative, but rather commenting on a 180 in conservative thinking on the issue, simply because it has to do with vaccine mandates.
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spike wrote:
surfndestroy wrote:
@Norris and @Spike - do I look like a conservative? Lets see how you compare. I will admit that a lot of the heavy lifting has already been done in Canada, so it's much easier for me to support existing rules than push for change.
I don’t think anyone was labeling you as conservative, but rather commenting on a 180 in conservative thinking on the issue, simply because it has to do with vaccine mandates.
Pretty much this. Surf was the one who brought it up in this thread, but my post really wasn't about his politics.
@Norris and @Spike - do I look like a conservative? Lets see how you compare. I will admit that a lot of the heavy lifting has already been done in Canada, so it's much easier for me to support existing rules than push for change.
I don’t think anyone was labeling you as conservative, but rather commenting on a 180 in conservative thinking on the issue, simply because it has to do with vaccine mandates.
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:13 pm Posts: 39753 Location: 6000 feet beyond man and time.
spike wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
spike wrote:
surfndestroy wrote:
@Norris and @Spike - do I look like a conservative? Lets see how you compare. I will admit that a lot of the heavy lifting has already been done in Canada, so it's much easier for me to support existing rules than push for change.
I don’t think anyone was labeling you as conservative, but rather commenting on a 180 in conservative thinking on the issue, simply because it has to do with vaccine mandates.
What's your position?
that getting the vaccine isn’t a big deal
But do companies have a right to fire people if they refuse to get vaccinated?
@Norris and @Spike - do I look like a conservative? Lets see how you compare. I will admit that a lot of the heavy lifting has already been done in Canada, so it's much easier for me to support existing rules than push for change.
I don’t think anyone was labeling you as conservative, but rather commenting on a 180 in conservative thinking on the issue, simply because it has to do with vaccine mandates.
What's your position?
that getting the vaccine isn’t a big deal
But do companies have a right to fire people if they refuse to get vaccinated?
Exactly. It's question of if the vaccine mandate is valid cause.
_________________ "The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don't have a f**king clue about how to build anything."
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Bi_3 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
spike wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
spike wrote:
surfndestroy wrote:
@Norris and @Spike - do I look like a conservative? Lets see how you compare. I will admit that a lot of the heavy lifting has already been done in Canada, so it's much easier for me to support existing rules than push for change.
I don’t think anyone was labeling you as conservative, but rather commenting on a 180 in conservative thinking on the issue, simply because it has to do with vaccine mandates.
What's your position?
that getting the vaccine isn’t a big deal
But do companies have a right to fire people if they refuse to get vaccinated?
Exactly. It's question of if the vaccine mandate is valid cause.
And should people fired for this cause get unemployment benefits?
@Norris and @Spike - do I look like a conservative? Lets see how you compare. I will admit that a lot of the heavy lifting has already been done in Canada, so it's much easier for me to support existing rules than push for change.
I don’t think anyone was labeling you as conservative, but rather commenting on a 180 in conservative thinking on the issue, simply because it has to do with vaccine mandates.
What's your position?
that getting the vaccine isn’t a big deal
But do companies have a right to fire people if they refuse to get vaccinated?
why wouldn’t they? everything is at will in this country.
Sure, you can fire someone for any reasonable reason.
Unvaccinated employees could cause staffing or productivity issues due to outbreaks or quarantine. Companies are also subject to fines for unvaccinated or untested employees under the federal mandate. Rapid testing is a cost to the employer. Et cetera.
Companies have a right to protect themselves against such matters.
Sure, you can fire someone for any reasonable reason.
Unvaccinated employees could cause staffing or productivity issues due to outbreaks or quarantine. Companies are also subject to fines for unvaccinated or untested employees under the federal mandate.
Companies have a right to protect themselves against such matters.
Yeah, I think the courts have upheld this view as well
_________________ "The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don't have a f**king clue about how to build anything."
Sure, you can fire someone for any reasonable reason.
Unvaccinated employees could cause staffing or productivity issues due to outbreaks or quarantine. Companies are also subject to fines for unvaccinated or untested employees under the federal mandate.
Companies have a right to protect themselves against such matters.
Yeah, I think the courts have upheld this view as well
One of my neighbours is anti Covid vax. He is 100% work from home. He is looking at getting fired at the end of the month and no employment insurance. He has been paying into mandatory federal employment insurance for 20+ years. This seems like absolute overreach by the federal gov't to deny employment insurance in this case and using employment insurance as a cudgel for public health.
_________________ Think I’m going to try being kind to everyone a chance.
Sure, you can fire someone for any reasonable reason.
Unvaccinated employees could cause staffing or productivity issues due to outbreaks or quarantine. Companies are also subject to fines for unvaccinated or untested employees under the federal mandate.
Companies have a right to protect themselves against such matters.
Yeah, I think the courts have upheld this view as well
Except for the part about there being a universal Federal mandate.
@Norris and @Spike - do I look like a conservative? Lets see how you compare. I will admit that a lot of the heavy lifting has already been done in Canada, so it's much easier for me to support existing rules than push for change.
I don’t think anyone was labeling you as conservative, but rather commenting on a 180 in conservative thinking on the issue, simply because it has to do with vaccine mandates.
He might be referring to my reaction, which was more surprise than anything. The only policy position I could recall surf expressing previously was that he favored UBI because he saw it as a means to gutting poverty reduction programs and school lunch. With that and his social issue posts as context, it was the assertion of 90%....not, like, "most" or "a lot,"....that caught me by surprise.
I'm assuming that wherever he listed Canada's current policy on an issue instead of stating his own preference, it's because he supports the status quo in Canada on that issue. In which case, yeah, I understand the 90% now.
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