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I'm trying to figure out what counterfactual risk reward benefit could possibly exist that would make sense vaccinating young kids. So their immunity goes negative in 3-4 months after the shot and there was no real risk for them to begin with and reduction in contagiousness is unclear.
Maybe no worse than other common pediatric interventions, but enthusiasm from the public health authorities is a bit confusing.
Give your child this treatment if it eases your neuroticism is already a thing to some extent, but is that the proper practice of medicine?
I'm trying to figure out what counterfactual risk reward benefit could possibly exist that would make sense vaccinating young kids. So their immunity goes negative in 3-4 months after the shot and there was no real risk for them to begin with and reduction in contagiousness is unclear.
Maybe no worse than other common pediatric interventions, but enthusiasm from the public health authorities is a bit confusing.
Give your child this treatment if it eases your neuroticism is already a thing to some extent, but is that the proper practice of medicine?
I'm trying to figure out what counterfactual risk reward benefit could possibly exist that would make sense vaccinating young kids. So their immunity goes negative in 3-4 months after the shot and there was no real risk for them to begin with and reduction in contagiousness is unclear.
Maybe no worse than other common pediatric interventions, but enthusiasm from the public health authorities is a bit confusing.
Give your child this treatment if it eases your neuroticism is already a thing to some extent, but is that the proper practice of medicine?
Are you against flu shots for your kids?
The 1918 flu tended to be worse for the young than the old, not sure how that carries over to modern variants.
Flu shots are not super effective, but I don't recall an argument to get them to reduce community spread. Seems like you're almost suggesting COVID shots should be treated the same and not mandated anywhere because we know they are a minimally effective intervention.
Do pediatricians promote flu shots to help protect the adults in the kids environs?
I'm trying to figure out what counterfactual risk reward benefit could possibly exist that would make sense vaccinating young kids. So their immunity goes negative in 3-4 months after the shot and there was no real risk for them to begin with and reduction in contagiousness is unclear.
Maybe no worse than other common pediatric interventions, but enthusiasm from the public health authorities is a bit confusing.
Give your child this treatment if it eases your neuroticism is already a thing to some extent, but is that the proper practice of medicine?
Are you against flu shots for your kids?
The 1918 flu tended to be worse for the young than the old, not sure how that carries over to modern variants.
Flu shots are not super effective, but I don't recall an argument to get them to reduce community spread. Seems like you're almost suggesting COVID shots should be treated the same and not mandated anywhere because we know they are a minimally effective intervention.
Do pediatricians promote flu shots to help protect the adults in the kids environs?
Is this vaccine the same one we have been using? The one that is based on the sequencing of the original strain from Wuhan in December of 2019?
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Bi_3 wrote:
Is this vaccine the same one we have been using? The one that is based on the sequencing of the original strain from Wuhan in December of 2019?
Yes, I think. Dosing is different than for adults, and testing was occurring during the omicron surge. So, it looks like the data was convincing for the epidemiologists.
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Is this vaccine the same one we have been using? The one that is based on the sequencing of the original strain from Wuhan in December of 2019?
Yes, I think. Dosing is different than for adults, and testing was occurring during the omicron surge. So, it looks like the data was convincing for the epidemiologists.
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Here in ultra blue Austin I'm not seeing a lot of masks lately. I assume the people still wearing them are very (mentally) sick people. They have reopened the testing site down the street though. No lines from panicked neurotics yet.
Is this vaccine the same one we have been using? The one that is based on the sequencing of the original strain from Wuhan in December of 2019?
Yes, I think. Dosing is different than for adults, and testing was occurring during the omicron surge. So, it looks like the data was convincing for the epidemiologists.
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IIRC this was the test that was stopped and a third dose was added because of low immune system responses for a majority of the trial subjects and the FDA approved it under a lowered response threshold than previous vaccines.
Seems like something parents should consider waiting a few months on unless there are other contributing factors in their young child's health or a new formulation that prevents omicron variants is released. I mean, we don't give our kids flu shots from three years ago.
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BurtReynolds wrote:
Here in ultra blue Austin I'm not seeing a lot of masks lately. I assume the people still wearing them are very (mentally) sick people. They have reopened the testing site down the street though. No lines from panicked neurotics yet.
The long term legacy of masks will be “look at what we did to our landfills”
Here in ultra blue Austin I'm not seeing a lot of masks lately. I assume the people still wearing them are very (mentally) sick people. They have reopened the testing site down the street though. No lines from panicked neurotics yet.
Is this vaccine the same one we have been using? The one that is based on the sequencing of the original strain from Wuhan in December of 2019?
Yes, I think. Dosing is different than for adults, and testing was occurring during the omicron surge. So, it looks like the data was convincing for the epidemiologists.
$cience!
IIRC this was the test that was stopped and a third dose was added because of low immune system responses for a majority of the trial subjects and the FDA approved it under a lowered response threshold than previous vaccines.
Seems like something parents should consider waiting a few months on unless there are other contributing factors in their young child's health or a new formulation that prevents omicron variants is released. I mean, we don't give our kids flu shots from three years ago.
If memory serves, they’ve “updated” the vaccine at least once, and yes, are working on a formula that’s even more effective against the omicron strain. Supposed so be ready before the school year, I believe.
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spike wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Here in ultra blue Austin I'm not seeing a lot of masks lately. I assume the people still wearing them are very (mentally) sick people. They have reopened the testing site down the street though. No lines from panicked neurotics yet.
Here in ultra blue Austin I'm not seeing a lot of masks lately. I assume the people still wearing them are very (mentally) sick people. They have reopened the testing site down the street though. No lines from panicked neurotics yet.
They could be high risk/immunocompromised.
Doubt it.
Oh, okay. Well, there are other practical reasons to try minimizing catching Covid too.
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BurtReynolds wrote:
spike wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Here in ultra blue Austin I'm not seeing a lot of masks lately. I assume the people still wearing them are very (mentally) sick people. They have reopened the testing site down the street though. No lines from panicked neurotics yet.
They could be high risk/immunocompromised.
Doubt it.
Oh well in that case
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its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
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