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Just answer the question in good faith. No need to make things so adversarial.
The question was not asked in good faith.
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Just answer the question in good faith. No need to make things so adversarial.
The question was not asked in good faith.
I don't see any evidence of that, but you've successfully avoided answering the question. Congratulations.
I asked about mRNA, he answered with 'they pulled J&J' (which is a different type of vaccine) and then caveats it with 'notable' meaning anything could be rejected out right. So if I were to say 'Myocarditis' the answer would be be 'that is so rare it's not notable'. It's a set up and a bad faith question.
But Spike is a grownup and answer for himself what types of evidence he believes.
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Look it takes time to search Twitter and the blogs, give the guy a break
Exactly why my response was relevant.
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Are there health issues caused by the vaccine notable enough to pull it out of circulation or not?
Gotta throw notable etc in there because every vaccine can have side effects, and I’m not interested in hearing about someone’s third cousin feeling like shit for a few weeks after a jab.
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Peeps wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
spike wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
spike wrote:
If only our leaders had leaned on the ghouls of RM instead of the CDC two years ago.
Without diving into blame or political ramifications, if there is a personal health issue resulting from vaccination by the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines don't you want you know?
Yes, and they pulled J&J. Are there other notable side effects?
Before I answer that, precisely whose opinion on that would you believe? Like, what possible evidence could be presented that would allow you to accept there are adverse effects in some statistically significant amount of people that are going unacknowledged or under-reported?
the majority of drs who agree. not aunt nancy on facebook who posts videos of people shaking and saying, im just asking but is this from the vaccine?
How about even 8 of the 15 doctors on the Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices? Offit (who has been on the ACIP in the past) doesn't mention side effects. He didn't mention that we may have harmed kids. Just that we should have focused on groups at higher risk.
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If only our leaders had leaned on the ghouls of RM instead of the CDC two years ago.
Without diving into blame or political ramifications, if there is a personal health issue resulting from vaccination by the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines don't you want you know?
Yes, and they pulled J&J. Are there other notable side effects?
Before I answer that, precisely whose opinion on that would you believe? Like, what possible evidence could be presented that would allow you to accept there are adverse effects in some statistically significant amount of people that are going unacknowledged or under-reported?
the majority of drs who agree. not aunt nancy on facebook who posts videos of people shaking and saying, im just asking but is this from the vaccine?
How about even 8 of the 15 doctors on the Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices? Offit (who has been on the ACIP in the past) doesn't mention side effects. He didn't mention that we may have harmed kids. Just that we should have focused on groups at higher risk.
He mentioned (starting at 22 seconds) that he didnt know why the CDC was pushing for everyone to get boosters instead of just high risk groups as the data shows boosters don't help other groups in protection against severe disease. It's part of a significant narrative shift which mirrors what we have seen globally. Tying this back to the previous page, should we believe Offit? That Malone guy who claims to be the inventor of mRNA vaccines? Bill Gates? It's hard to say as each has their own interests and their own reasons to be less-than-truthful... including the CDC and ACIP.
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Say what you want about Fox Mulder, but he is no dogmatic doxastic voluntarist. He merely wants to believe.
Time to repost this. MULDER KNEW:
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Some vaccine advisers to the federal government say they’re “disappointed” and “angry” that government scientists and the pharmaceutical company Moderna didn’t present a set of infection data on the company’s new Covid-19 booster during meetings last year when the advisers discussed whether the shot should be authorized and made available to the public.
“I was angry to find out that there was data that was relevant to our decision that we didn’t get to see,” said Dr. Paul Offit, a member of the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee, a group of external advisers that helps the FDA make vaccine decisions. “Decisions that are made for the public have to be made based on all available information – not just some information, but all information.”
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