Fri November 01, 2019 5:59 pm
Fox News host Tucker Carlson said this week that young Americans are increasingly attracted to socialism because "our current system isn't working" for them when it comes to issues like college debt.
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"We need to move the crushing financial burden of student debt off the shoulders of middle-class families and 22-year-olds and back onto the people who’ve gotten rich from it," Carlson and Patel conclude. "That’s an idea every sensible person can support. And there’s a political payoff for any politician wise enough to adopt it."
Sat November 02, 2019 3:58 pm
tragabigzanda wrote:Tucker Carlson:Fox News host Tucker Carlson said this week that young Americans are increasingly attracted to socialism because "our current system isn't working" for them when it comes to issues like college debt.
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"We need to move the crushing financial burden of student debt off the shoulders of middle-class families and 22-year-olds and back onto the people who’ve gotten rich from it," Carlson and Patel conclude. "That’s an idea every sensible person can support. And there’s a political payoff for any politician wise enough to adopt it."
Sat November 02, 2019 4:19 pm
wease wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:Tucker Carlson:Fox News host Tucker Carlson said this week that young Americans are increasingly attracted to socialism because "our current system isn't working" for them when it comes to issues like college debt.
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"We need to move the crushing financial burden of student debt off the shoulders of middle-class families and 22-year-olds and back onto the people who’ve gotten rich from it," Carlson and Patel conclude. "That’s an idea every sensible person can support. And there’s a political payoff for any politician wise enough to adopt it."
WTF? I bet he got tongue lashed for that.
Sat November 02, 2019 5:07 pm
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Tue November 05, 2019 4:06 pm
tragabigzanda wrote:
Tue November 05, 2019 8:18 pm
4/5 wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:
Of course, rather than legislating this, American beef companies could choose to add a MADE IN USA label, and if it is in fact it is healthier/safer and consumers have a preference for healthier/safer beef the label, or the absence of such a label, will influence their decisions in favor of American beef. No legislation required. Of course, if consumers don't care about health/safety (unlikely) or if the health/safety benefits of American beef are overstated, then American beef companies would probably want legislation to shield them from competition.
Tue November 05, 2019 8:22 pm
4/5 wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:
Of course, rather than legislating this, American beef companies could choose to add a MADE IN USA label, and if it is in fact it is healthier/safer and consumers have a preference for healthier/safer beef the label, or the absence of such a label, will influence their decisions in favor of American beef. No legislation required. Of course, if consumers don't care about health/safety (unlikely) or if the health/safety benefits of American beef are overstated, then American beef companies would probably want legislation to shield them from competition.
Tue November 05, 2019 8:24 pm
tragabigzanda wrote:4/5 wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:
Of course, rather than legislating this, American beef companies could choose to add a MADE IN USA label, and if it is in fact it is healthier/safer and consumers have a preference for healthier/safer beef the label, or the absence of such a label, will influence their decisions in favor of American beef. No legislation required. Of course, if consumers don't care about health/safety (unlikely) or if the health/safety benefits of American beef are overstated, then American beef companies would probably want legislation to shield them from competition.
My understanding is that such a label would have to be regulated by the USDA and/or FDA (more likely the former), and that a change in regulation would require legislation followed by open comment period. That’s just based on what I’ve seen before with similar issue, so I could be wrong here, but...
Tue November 05, 2019 8:32 pm
bune wrote:4/5 wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:
Of course, rather than legislating this, American beef companies could choose to add a MADE IN USA label, and if it is in fact it is healthier/safer and consumers have a preference for healthier/safer beef the label, or the absence of such a label, will influence their decisions in favor of American beef. No legislation required. Of course, if consumers don't care about health/safety (unlikely) or if the health/safety benefits of American beef are overstated, then American beef companies would probably want legislation to shield them from competition.
Sure, but then the "made in USA" label without gov't oversight could be potentially used as a "we processed the cow here so this thing you're holding in your hand was 'made' in the USA"
which would probably happen even with oversight, it all depends on what the person in charge wants to consider against the rules, after all.
Tue November 05, 2019 8:44 pm
Tue November 05, 2019 8:56 pm
bune wrote:Inspector stamps are already a hot commodity (we had to lock ours up every time we left the office) so this would be another thing to lock up and/or potentially forge.
Tue November 05, 2019 9:26 pm
Tue November 05, 2019 9:30 pm
bune wrote:Right now nothing near as interesting but I was a food inspector while in the Army. One of the things we did was check the cuts of beef and pork for the stamps that the factory inspectors used. We heard a lot of stories and had stamps of our own.
Tue November 05, 2019 9:53 pm
Tue November 05, 2019 11:12 pm
4/5 wrote:[My main point is that if USA beef is in fact better/healthier then they (USA beef producers) should be very motivated to (1) make sure the public believes that their product is superior and (2) to make it as easy for the consumer to choose USA beef as much as possible. And if their claim is true the regulation would be redundant and unnecessary because people would naturally choose their product.
Tue November 05, 2019 11:18 pm
Tue November 05, 2019 11:34 pm
surfndestroy wrote:4/5 wrote:[My main point is that if USA beef is in fact better/healthier then they (USA beef producers) should be very motivated to (1) make sure the public believes that their product is superior and (2) to make it as easy for the consumer to choose USA beef as much as possible. And if their claim is true the regulation would be redundant and unnecessary because people would naturally choose their product.
Isn't most meat cut and packaged at store level?
bune wrote:truly it depends on what the contract says but yes, you're correct in that the store does most of the cutting: They get a giant cut that they then reduce to the individual pieces.