The board's server will undergo upgrade maintenance tonight, Nov 5, 2014, beginning approximately around 10 PM ET. Prepare for some possible down time during this process.
Post subject: Re: Paranoid Androids - the Deepfake Thread™
Posted: Sat August 31, 2019 4:33 pm
Mind Your Tanners
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 6:02 am Posts: 9712 Location: Tristes Tropiques
Bi_3 wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
Foreign governments will have a field day dropping weapons-grade deepfakes just before election day to destabilize democratic governments. There won't be time to verify them.
Or criminals. Or terrorists. Or activists. Or 8chan.
You can no longer know the legitimacy of any recorded audio or video.
I'd argue that you never knew the legitimacy of any of these things and to believe otherwise is to reinstate a lapsarian theology.
_________________
VinylGuy wrote:
its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
That's because the originals weren't encrypted with specific metadata.
All this would take is some sort of agreement on metadata stamping between media groups.
What good is metadata in determining the authenticity of a secret recording of a politician making racist jokes at a private party, for example? Or leaked video of a politician snorting coke with prostitutes?
Post subject: Re: Paranoid Androids - the Deepfake Thread™
Posted: Sat August 31, 2019 4:38 pm
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:13 pm Posts: 39826 Location: 6000 feet beyond man and time.
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.
Post subject: Re: Paranoid Androids - the Deepfake Thread™
Posted: Sat August 31, 2019 4:44 pm
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:13 pm Posts: 39826 Location: 6000 feet beyond man and time.
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.
Post subject: Re: Paranoid Androids - the Deepfake Thread™
Posted: Sat August 31, 2019 4:51 pm
NEVER STOP JAMMING!
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 1:56 am Posts: 21846
There’ll definitely be a tell, but I suspect it will come from the gan itself, in the form of a code footprint which documents the gan’s involvement, and bad actors will seek ways to bypass it. If it’s like other highly manipulatable file types, the security value of the footprint will help it become an industry standard, and we’ll just have to get used to disregarding realistic footage that has a gap in or lacks a footprint.
Post subject: Re: Paranoid Androids - the Deepfake Thread™
Posted: Sat August 31, 2019 4:54 pm
NEVER STOP JAMMING!
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 1:56 am Posts: 21846
You’ll definitely get a lot of “experts say the footage lacks a footprint, so it’s probably fake, but then how do you explain x,” but that will just be another generational gap in tech literacy. Millennials onward will handle it well, the rest of us will embarrass ourselves.
Post subject: Re: Paranoid Androids - the Deepfake Thread™
Posted: Sat August 31, 2019 4:55 pm
Rank This Poster
Joined: Mon March 18, 2013 11:48 pm Posts: 5223 Location: A Dark Place
I'm totally pulling this out of my ass, but I'd assume it would be fairly easy for sites like FB and YouTube to pull the metadata of videos uploaded and mark them as manipulated.
Post subject: Re: Paranoid Androids - the Deepfake Thread™
Posted: Sat August 31, 2019 4:58 pm
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:13 pm Posts: 39826 Location: 6000 feet beyond man and time.
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.
Post subject: Re: Paranoid Androids - the Deepfake Thread™
Posted: Sat August 31, 2019 5:00 pm
NEVER STOP JAMMING!
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 1:56 am Posts: 21846
run2death wrote:
I'm totally pulling this out of my ass, but I'd assume it would be fairly easy for sites like FB and YouTube to pull the metadata of videos uploaded and mark them as manipulated.
This might be true, but there are already ways to manipulate that data.
Too many industries depend on reliable video, and video production software developers depend on those industries seeing them as a part of their security apparatus....which is why I suspect you’ll see a standard footprint come together. That’ll be a lot harder for any gan to bypass/upset.
Post subject: Re: Paranoid Androids - the Deepfake Thread™
Posted: Sat August 31, 2019 5:03 pm
Looks Like a Cat
Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm Posts: 14268
McParadigm wrote:
You’ll definitely get a lot of “experts say the footage lacks a footprint, so it’s probably fake, but then how do you explain x,” but that will just be another generational gap in tech literacy. Millennials onward will handle it well, the rest of us will embarrass ourselves.
I’m not following how this works or what you mean by footprint (do you mean fingerprint?) Do you have a link or something that goes into better detail?
_________________ "The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don't have a f**king clue about how to build anything."
Post subject: Re: Paranoid Androids - the Deepfake Thread™
Posted: Sat August 31, 2019 5:16 pm
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:13 pm Posts: 39826 Location: 6000 feet beyond man and time.
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.
Post subject: Re: Paranoid Androids - the Deepfake Thread™
Posted: Sat August 31, 2019 5:36 pm
NEVER STOP JAMMING!
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 1:56 am Posts: 21846
Bi_3 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
You’ll definitely get a lot of “experts say the footage lacks a footprint, so it’s probably fake, but then how do you explain x,” but that will just be another generational gap in tech literacy. Millennials onward will handle it well, the rest of us will embarrass ourselves.
I’m not following how this works or what you mean by footprint (do you mean fingerprint?) Do you have a link or something that goes into better detail?
Yeah, fingerprint is the more colloquially used term, with footprint more often referring to an individual’s information, but in healthcare IT ‘footprint’ is more commonly used (probably because there is a completely different subset of terms for customer data in hc), so I forget that distinction.
Post subject: Re: Paranoid Androids - the Deepfake Thread™
Posted: Tue September 03, 2019 9:57 pm
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:13 pm Posts: 39826 Location: 6000 feet beyond man and time.
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.
Post subject: Re: Paranoid Androids - the Deepfake Thread™
Posted: Tue September 03, 2019 10:31 pm
NEVER STOP JAMMING!
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 11:15 pm Posts: 20787 Location: the bathroom
i'm just bummed bc this is going to put a damper on the remote workforce that is emerging. how the heck will anyone believe that i was in a video conference, and it wasn't some dude from Cambodia that I hired for $5 to use a deepfake video of my face and voice, so i could be out on the golf course all morning?
Post subject: Re: Paranoid Androids - the Deepfake Thread™
Posted: Tue March 02, 2021 10:13 pm
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:13 pm Posts: 39826 Location: 6000 feet beyond man and time.
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.
Post subject: Re: Paranoid Androids - the Deepfake Thread™
Posted: Tue March 02, 2021 11:54 pm
NEVER STOP JAMMING!
Joined: Sun September 15, 2013 5:50 am Posts: 22403
kevin costner has a way better ass
_________________ All posts by this account, even those referencing real things, are entirely fictional and are for entertainment purposes only; i.e. very low-quality entertainment. These may contain coarse language and due to their content should not be viewed by anyone
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 96 guests
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum