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 Post subject: Paranoid Androids - the Deepfake Thread™
PostPosted: Sat August 31, 2019 3:34 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Paranoid Androids - the Deepfake Thread™
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its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.


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 Post subject: Re: Paranoid Androids - the Deepfake Thread™
PostPosted: Sat August 31, 2019 3:37 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Paranoid Androids - the Deepfake Thread™
PostPosted: Sat August 31, 2019 3:40 pm 
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Porn aside, this could permanently change how the legal system works.

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Huh? There's an easy answer.

Legit sites/organizations should just encrypted their video/audio files with specific metadata.


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 Post subject: Re: Paranoid Androids - the Deepfake Thread™
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It should also be mentioned that this has opened up an entire new world of porn, and don't pretend that you don't know what I'm talking about.

It will also revolutionize Just for Laughs

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 Post subject: Re: Paranoid Androids - the Deepfake Thread™
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How can I even be sure it’s the real Burt posing this question?


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 Post subject: Re: Paranoid Androids - the Deepfake Thread™
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run2death wrote:
Huh? There's an easy answer.

Legit sites/organizations should just encrypted their video/audio files with specific metadata.


The Nancy Pelosi video was obviously fake, you didn't need a metadata analysis to tell you that, and yet millions of Facebook uncles swear by it.

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 Post subject: Re: Paranoid Androids - the Deepfake Thread™
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run2death wrote:
Huh? There's an easy answer.

Legit sites/organizations should just encrypted their video/audio files with specific metadata.


I’m not following you here. Do you mean fingerprint/checksum a file? The issue isn’t just manipulation of a news video so much as the generation of lifelike fake videos. Paste a suspect into a security video to get a robbery conviction or a president into a water sports porn vid

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 Post subject: Re: Paranoid Androids - the Deepfake Thread™
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Generally, I think that it’ll take 20 or so years for mainstream/casual media subscribers to figure out how to separate the wheat from the chaff; the more media literate will have a better grip on reality, but will be in the minority.

I like R2D’s idea of encryption, but don’t know enough about the technology to gauge how realistic that is.

One thing I will predict is a genesis of non-partisan news outlets, that will ultimately band together to share resources. Call it AP 2.0. They’ll be digitally savvy, donor-supported, and will probably be anchored by NPR, PRX, WaPo, etc. Figure ten more years for them to get their shot together, then another ten for them to really capture the average listener market.


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 Post subject: Re: Paranoid Androids - the Deepfake Thread™
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Fakes have been around for centuries. I'd argue they are actually easier to track in the digital age.

You can't control what lazy, stupid people share on FB.

Peterson is a whiny little bitch.


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Foreign governments will have a field day dropping weapons-grade deepfakes just before election day to destabilize democratic governments. There won't be time to verify them.


Or criminals. Or terrorists. Or activists. Or 8chan.

You can no longer know the legitimacy of any recorded audio or video.

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You guys can't really be this ignorant about technology.

You guys are joking, right?


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You guys can't really be this ignorant about technology.

You guys are joking, right?


How would you tell a fake video from a real one? If you know, you could be a multimillionaire software developer.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/06/12/top-ai-researchers-race-detect-deepfake-videos-we-are-outgunned/%3foutputType=amp

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 Post subject: Re: Paranoid Androids - the Deepfake Thread™
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Bi_3 wrote:
run2death wrote:
You guys can't really be this ignorant about technology.

You guys are joking, right?


How would you tell a fake video from a real one? If you know, you could be a multimillionaire software developer.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/06/12/top-ai-researchers-race-detect-deepfake-videos-we-are-outgunned/%3foutputType=amp


That's because the originals weren't encrypted with specific metadata.

All this would take is some sort of agreement on metadata stamping between media groups.


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