NIMBYism

[Mickey]

Probably because the right doesn't want many of those things at all.

[wease]

I haven't decided if NIMBYism exists. Convince me that it does.

It was super prevalent when I lived in the super liberal college town of Amherst, MA. Professors and doctoral students espousing all manner of liberal social mechanism would be the loudest voices in opposition to an ongoing affordable housing project.

Also Ted Kennedy in Nantucket — he’s all for renewable energy, except for then the turbines would be within the sight line of his home and impact his property value.

Here in southwest MT: Lots of libs pushing for more affordable housing, yet actively challenging high density apartment building projects.

Broadly speaking, I think the behavior is evidenced more frequently from the left, rather than the right.

Yeah, none of that is true. Convince me.

[tragabigzanda]

We already have a tree, wease

[Mickey]

Is it in your backyard?

[wease]

Indeed.

I do believe it exists, by the way, and appreciate your thoughtful response to my attempt at jest.

[Norris]

trag

[tragabigzanda]

it's not the first time sarcasm has flown right over my head, and it shan't be the last

[96583UP]

Also Ted Kennedy in Nantucket — he’s all for renewable energy, except for then the turbines would be within the sight line of his home and impact his property value.

wind turbines not so awesome

Tens of thousands of aging blades are coming down from steel towers around the world and most have nowhere to go but landfills. In the U.S. alone, about 8,000 will be removed in each of the next four years. Europe, which has been dealing with the problem longer, has about 3,800 coming down annually through at least 2022, according to BloombergNEF. It’s going to get worse: Most were built more than a decade ago, when installations were less than a fifth of what they are now.

Built to withstand hurricane-force winds, the blades can’t easily be crushed, recycled or repurposed. That’s created an urgent search for alternatives in places that lack wide-open prairies. In the U.S., they go to the handful of landfills that accept them, in Lake Mills, Iowa; Sioux Falls, South Dakota; and Casper, where they will be interred in stacks that reach 30 feet under.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-02-05/wind-turbine-blades-can-t-be-recycled-so-they-re-piling-up-in-landfills

[tragabigzanda]

ok but Ted's opposition was like 10 years ago

[96583UP]

he's always one step ahead of the game

Spoiler: show

[BurtReynolds]

[simple schoolboy]

The Berkeley city government has done a great job of physically manifesting the simmering resentment the city feels for motorists trying to travel anywhere in the city. Of course they hate the idea of anyone else living in their neighborhood. There's a nice coalition of aging hippy boomers living in rent stablized units and well to do homeowners who got a ton of free equity over the past 20 or so years that are anti growth.

[Green Habit]

The Berkeley city government has done a great job of physically manifesting the simmering resentment the city feels for motorists trying to travel anywhere in the city. Of course they hate the idea of anyone else living in their neighborhood. There's a nice coalition of aging hippy boomers living in rent stablized units and well to do homeowners who got a ton of free equity over the past 20 or so years that are anti growth.

Man, fuck those NIMBYs.

Since you and Burt were talking about something different, here's more info on the latest absolute disgrace that happened there:

[simple schoolboy]

The Berkeley city government has done a great job of physically manifesting the simmering resentment the city feels for motorists trying to travel anywhere in the city. Of course they hate the idea of anyone else living in their neighborhood. There's a nice coalition of aging hippy boomers living in rent stablized units and well to do homeowners who got a ton of free equity over the past 20 or so years that are anti growth.

Man, fuck those NIMBYs.

Since you and Burt were talking about something different, here's more info on the latest absolute disgrace that happened there:

I have a friend thats a Civil Engineer who refuses to conceed that CEQA is a problem. Presumably its a suvivorship bias issue because anything that actually breaks ground has passed the environmental review.

[Green Habit]

In reply to this:

[Green Habit]

What they are opposing is removing a conservation easement that's locking in land to only be used as a golf course. Yes, a socialist group is opposing the destruction of one of the archetypal monuments to capitalism. And conservation easements in general are a way for rich capitalists to entrench their wealth further. Left NIMBYs are so dumb.

https://twitter.com/DSAdenver/status/16 ... 4331864064

[BurtReynolds]