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Joined: Fri January 04, 2013 1:46 am Posts: 2811 Location: Connecticut
Bi_3 wrote:
She practices what Harvard's Cornell Brooks called "Politics as Protest", so she is more activist than politician. It's why she's been highly effective at garnering attention and condemning others behaviors, but ineffective as a legislator...
Garnering attention is needed to influence the legislators. Bernie did this in 2016, and look where the party is now. You can love or hate these people, but they have not been ineffective. I've actually been really surprised by how much different the party sounds today compared to just a few years ago.
She practices what Harvard's Cornell Brooks called "Politics as Protest", so she is more activist than politician. It's why she's been highly effective at garnering attention and condemning others behaviors, but ineffective as a legislator... she doesn't want to solve the problems, she wants to point to them and perform personal trauma. Contrast that with Warren or Harris who, ignoring whether you agree with or disagree with their positions, care about policy and applying reasoned and practical approached to addressing what they see as needed changes. I disagree with Warren and Harris frequently, but they are respectable leaders and not cry babies.
I'd be curious about which other seven-month freshmen Congressmen have built up long legislative pedigrees.
Of course her primary tool thus far has been the bully pulpit; what else is it going to be? She's a freshman Congressman. But like her policies or hate them, she's a freshman Congressman that actually has gotten things to the point where presidential candidates are being asked to comment on policies she's proposed/supported (i.e. the Green New Deal). You can think she's a crybaby, but the impact she's had is far disproportionate to the power she actually wields right now; this doesn't really seem arguable.
No other freshman Congressperson has her bully pulpit (possibly unique in modern history), but the point is what has that translated to other than intensifying the vitriol on either side? Rep. Omar has taken her views and translated them into bills, as has Rep. Pressley, and they have a fraction of the power AOC holds.
We have presidential candidates being asked to take positions on climate change based on a bill proposed by a freshman congressman (a bill that was by her own admission, meant as a conversation starter). She brought an issue that was always important to the forefront of debates about who the nominee is (this is also not even taking into consideration the question of spending time and capital on getting bills to the floor that a Republican Senate and President will never sign). And the "vitriol" on the other side is going to be there no matter what; any Democrat that guides what they do by whether Republicans will be pissed at them wouldn't be able to get out of bed in the morning.
Honestly, I would have thought that acknowledging that AOC has been effective in changing the conversation in the Democratic Party would be one of the only things the left and right actually agree on.
Maybe she’ll be able to improve the lives of her constituents now
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Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 6:02 am Posts: 9712 Location: Tristes Tropiques
Is this supposed to be some kind of gotcha or are you saving this to wank to?
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VinylGuy wrote:
its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 6:02 am Posts: 9712 Location: Tristes Tropiques
Bammer wrote:
Pandering much?
Ladies and gentlemen, we got her.
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VinylGuy wrote:
its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
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